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Old 08-03-2011, 06:17 PM
 
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You can get a voice only line, with unlimited calls for 15 dollars a month cellular.

Its given away as advertisement costs.

When one poor family member has a free AT&T phone, then they know two people who will likely either stay, or switch to AT&T and have data.

That makes them money.

Voice is given away. I've worked in Cellular for a long time, voice is free.
The internal cost structures to the carrier are irrelevant. There are still administrative costs etc.

If AT&T is willing to give away free phones as an advertising method, why should the taxpayer pay AT&T to get free advertising?
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:22 PM
 
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Nothing is free.
The definition of "free" is "somebody else pays for it."
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:22 PM
 
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Somebody needs to tell the poster of the thread about "Modern Poverty in America includes A/C and an XBox" to add Cell Phone to that list...
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:28 PM
 
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Anyone in PA get their new cell phone..?

What's next, new cars ..?

Free cell phones are now a civil right
Actually the poor can get free cars... used cars that is... there was some kind of government program to give cars so the poor can go to work...
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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There's a lady who works for us and I guess her daughter doesn't have a phone. I hear all the time "I keep telling her to get one of those free phones from the gov't!" I just roll my eyes. My SIL gets every kind of welfare under the sun and gives her free phone to her teenage son to use. Again, I have to just roll my eyes.

I also don't believe that voice calls are free. Some people don't have smart phones still and just have a basic talk plan...like my grandparents. They still have to pay for their service. I don't see how it's such a big expense that the carrier is taking a loss for it, either.

A simple search on the Sprint website tells me that for 200 anytime minutes, it costs $30/mo plus taxes and fees. You can add messaging and data services after that but it's not required. How is that free? But how is the carrier taking a loss on that? I'm sure by now, the cost of building the network has already been paid for many times over, so any additional voice customers are just pure profit.

I see no reason the poor should get free phones. However, there are some non-profits that give out phones and basic service to single mothers, that I support (and it's done by a non-profit so it's not taxpayer money being used anyway).
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Actually the poor can get free cars... used cars that is... there was some kind of government program to give cars so the poor can go to work...
Because taking the bus is so difficult.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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I can always predict what the new threads on here are going to be. I just watch Fox News, and then about an hour later .. voila.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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You can get a voice only line, with unlimited calls for 15 dollars a month cellular.

Its given away as advertisement costs.

When one poor family member has a free AT&T phone, then they know two people who will likely either stay, or switch to AT&T and have data.

That makes them money.

Voice is given away. I've worked in Cellular for a long time, voice is free.

Fine, let AT&T carry the load. Nothing should come from tax payers.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:38 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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I can always predict what the new threads on here are going to be. I just watch Fox News, and then about an hour later .. voila.
Actually, they run TV advertisements here (maybe they are public service announcements) about these "free phones" pretty regularly where I live. Gives a number to call, wh/ I always giggle about, since it hit me as incongruous that they are advertising to folks who supposedly can't make a call since they don't have a phone, lol.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:44 PM
 
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then give 'em a land line.

Wait.

Give 'em a land line to only call 911.

Give 'em NOTHING. Resurect payphones an put one at every bus stop or liquor store.
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