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Old 08-02-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Amazing how many of you liberals are running around secretly sacred of the "Tea Party". Trying to minimize them in your own minds so you don't have to deal with the fear they caused you in challenging your status quo.

Deflect all you like but the heat is only going to increase come the end of the year when the race for the Presidency heats up and the budget battle goes into round two.

Time for round two *******s. *Ding* *Ding*
No one is scared of the TEA party. They found a way for the TEA party to support their own marginalization, though the super committee.

They had their chance to really get into the inner workings of Washington and blew it on a ideological stance that no one supported. When the debt ceiling was first brought up, 70% of Americans didn't want it risen. Then the "education" started, that number has dropped to about 35%, with 65% of Americans wanting it raised.

Bachmann (TEA party favorite) had a rally a couple of days ago. She only had about 20 or 30 people show up for her rally. She asked them how many people supported her on not raising the debt ceiling, only about 5 raised their hands.

They had a chance, and they blew it. Only 4% of Americans think the TEA party is doing the right thing. Their time in Washington is over, and its got nothing to do with being scared, they didn't compromise, and when you don't compromise and you are in the minority, you haven't made any friends.

A controlling party can decide not to compromise. A one man equal branch of government can decide not to compromise. But a less then 30 member vote in congress can't decide not to compromise, and when you slap the Speaker of the house publicly, you get sent to the wood shed and ignored.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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They had to get the debt ceiling deal passed, and they couldn't count on liberal support. So they had to deal with the TEA party.

But now that the gun has been pulled away from their heads, things will change. Hence the "super committee", which TEA party members won't likely be on. It eliminates TEA party members. Why do you think it was added, it ignores them, it marginalizes them. They have no voice in it, period. Of course Republicans will deny this, but its the whole reason why its there.

Republicans realized they couldn't count on TEA party members to vote the party line, so now they must be ignored. The super committee does that.

The American people have even turned against the TEA party, they are done, finished, an alienated group of people who shot themselves in the foot.

Think of it this way. You invite someone into your house that is half your size. Then they slap you. What are you going to do to them?

The best thing TEA party members could have done was to interject their views into the bill, and they had done that up until about a month ago. When they voted against the speakers bill the first two times, they were done.
...and since the TEA party lost out, we are back to congress spending like drunken sailors, trading political favors in back room deals, and lots more taxpayer funded slush funds for greedy politicians, and with an added bonus of $20 trillion in debt in a few short years - yea for us.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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...and since the TEA party lost out, we are back to congress spending like drunken sailors, trading political favors in back room deals, and lots more taxpayer funded slush funds for greedy politicians, and with an added bonus of $20 trillion in debt in a few short years - yea for us.
The debt ceiling will once again be reached before the 2012 elections, contrary to what people think. I'm calling it now.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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Thank God for the Tea Party and yes they do need to be put where they belong.... IN CHARGE OF THE COUNTRY.

If it were not for the Tea Party the idiot in chief would have given us another two or three trillion dollars of debt and gone well beyond the current stupidness of spending that he has already given us.

Thank GOD for the wonderful people who love this country and refuse to turn it over to the pathilogical spenders!

God bless them one and all!
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We do want change but the Tea Party is in the completely opposite direction.

We need socialism for the majority of our people and raw capitalism for the few wealthy. We need to subsidize things that help all of us such as a Universal Health Care system free of the privately owned medical and insurance industries instead of bailing out the Wall Street gamblers and subsidizing the oil companies’ monopoly profits.

I have yet to see any reason to go where the Tea Party and most of right wing want us to go. All of these places would be a financial and social disaster for most of America.

We can start by supporting any and all Democratic Party Candidate in All future elections on the local, state and federal levels. Donate to them and work for their election and we can free ourselves of the monied wealth suckers damaging almost all of us.
I don't want to live in your Nirvana, where the people are slaves to the state, and only a handful of rich, politically connected elites work with government to enrich themselves. Sounds like a Fascist state to me, but then liberals love the thought of a central government tyranny.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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They had to get the debt ceiling deal passed, and they couldn't count on liberal support. So they had to deal with the TEA party.

But now that the gun has been pulled away from their heads, things will change. Hence the "super committee", which TEA party members won't likely be on. It eliminates TEA party members. Why do you think it was added, it ignores them, it marginalizes them. They have no voice in it, period. Of course Republicans will deny this, but its the whole reason why its there.

Republicans realized they couldn't count on TEA party members to vote the party line, so now they must be ignored. The super committee does that.

The American people have even turned against the TEA party, they are done, finished, an alienated group of people who shot themselves in the foot.

Think of it this way. You invite someone into your house that is half your size. Then they slap you. What are you going to do to them?

The best thing TEA party members could have done was to interject their views into the bill, and they had done that up until about a month ago. When they voted against the speakers bill the first two times, they were done.

I wish that were true but Boehner has already said he won't appoint anyone to the Super Committee who would vote for tax increases. I do think the committee was a good idea and it could lessen the power of the Tea Party but they will still have a plate at the table. The trouble with the Tea Party is they want to transform this country into something we won't even recognize in 10-15 years, If they have their way, we'll be a 3rd rate Banana Republic and all the things that made us great will be gone. Government and compromise are not bad things. Sure, we need changes but most of us still want a government and government programs! The Tea Party is not fit to lead; their only mission is to destroy from within.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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No one is scared of the TEA party. They found a way for the TEA party to support their own marginalization, though the super committee.

They had their chance to really get into the inner workings of Washington and blew it on a ideological stance that no one supported. When the debt ceiling was first brought up, 70% of Americans didn't want it risen. Then the "education" started, that number has dropped to about 35%, with 65% of Americans wanting it raised.

Bachmann (TEA party favorite) had a rally a couple of days ago. She only had about 20 or 30 people show up for her rally. She asked them how many people supported her on not raising the debt ceiling, only about 5 raised their hands.

They had a chance, and they blew it. Only 4% of Americans think the TEA party is doing the right thing. Their time in Washington is over, and its got nothing to do with being scared, they didn't compromise, and when you don't compromise and you are in the minority, you haven't made any friends.

A controlling party can decide not to compromise. A one man equal branch of government can decide not to compromise. But a less then 30 member vote in congress can't decide not to compromise, and when you slap the Speaker of the house publicly, you get sent to the wood shed and ignored.
This whole thread is about being scared of the Tea Party and its impact on Government in Washington and across the nation. When you call patriotic American citizens terrorists and the Taliban your showing how scared you are by trying to criminalize and minimize them at every turn.

It the same process the White Majority engaged in during the civil rights movement. Enacting Jim Crow laws, separate but equal schools and separate drinking fountains.

When your leader B.O. told Conservative Republicans to get to the back of the bus that was a signal he was afraid for their actions.

If there was nothing to be afraid of then this thread and others like it would not exist.

Don't worry, Be happy.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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If we have learned anything about the highjacking episode we just witnessed, it's that the TParty cares absolutely nothing about the United States.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The debt ceiling will once again be reached before the 2012 elections, contrary to what people think. I'm calling it now.
Wait until 0bamaCare kicks in with it's added taxes, regulations and hundreds of billions a year in operating costs. Our nation will be stuck in the 0bama malaise for decades, if we do not elect the right people in 2012.

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Old 08-02-2011, 07:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The debt ceiling will once again be reached before the 2012 elections, contrary to what people think. I'm calling it now.
You're right. Safe bet.
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