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Originally Posted by reconmark . Americans for Tax Reform, an influential conservative group focused on fiscal issues, is known for pushing Republicans to sign a pledge promising they will not, under any circumstances, vote for a tax increase of any kind. That even goes for closing loopholes “unless it’s matched dollar for dollar by lowering tax rates.” The president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, says that “about 97 percent of the Republicans in the House and 85 percent in the Senate have signed on. It’s become a party position.”
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That doesnt undermine their sworn oath of office.. Maybe you need to stop making claims you cant back up..
LOL!!!...signing a statement not to do their jobs dosen't undermine their sworn oath!!!...OMG, you are a d84h56!!!
You have just lost any rational argument go talk to somebody else..LOL!!!
Last edited by reconmark; 07-18-2011 at 08:38 PM..
Reason: Edit because he's mad his argument was null and void.
Originally Posted by reconmark . Americans for Tax Reform, an influential conservative group focused on fiscal issues, is known for pushing Republicans to sign a pledge promising they will not, under any circumstances, vote for a tax increase of any kind. That even goes for closing loopholes “unless it’s matched dollar for dollar by lowering tax rates.” The president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, says that “about 97 percent of the Republicans in the House and 85 percent in the Senate have signed on. It’s become a party position.”
What part of signing this, violates the oath of office which is..
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
As for the rest of your response, enjoy your tos, I'm sure you'll enjoy talking to no one for awhile..
What part of signing this, violates the oath of office which is..
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
As for the rest of your response, enjoy your tos, I'm sure you'll enjoy talking to no one for awhile..
Right go hurry up and tell because your little argument got smashed...LOL
As for citing the constitution, if you can't connect the dots of a political party stating that it will uphold party doctrine instead of "faithfully discharging their duties"..gee what can we label you???
Originally Posted by reconmark . Americans for Tax Reform, an influential conservative group focused on fiscal issues, is known for pushing Republicans to sign a pledge promising they will not, under any circumstances, vote for a tax increase of any kind. That even goes for closing loopholes “unless it’s matched dollar for dollar by lowering tax rates.” The president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, says that “about 97 percent of the Republicans in the House and 85 percent in the Senate have signed on. It’s become a party position.”
97% of Republicans in the House and 85% of the Republicans in the Senate have signed a pledge to the effect that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will they negotiate or debate or entertain the issue of tax cuts what so ever.
Does anyone else not see how this undermines their oath to " faithfully discharge the duties" of their office as representatives of this country first and foremost.
And each major side has to consolidate the various ideas into one coherent package before presenting it to the other side. I doubt that there will be anything of significant impact done right away to the debt because it is too politically harmful. There will be some spending cuts, just enough to brag about to the constituency, and some tax loopholes closed, also just enough to brag about to the constituency. But throughout my lifetime i've found that the nature of politics is to kick the can down the road.
What else is there to expect from ****-flinging primates?
The measure would allow for three short-term increases of the debt ceiling while at the same time letting lawmakers register their disapproval."
I have heard too many Republicans say today that they just won't vote for that plan. Surely they won't try this one together. Reid can't keep his life on the floor of the Senate trying to support this.
The blame will be put on the republicans for not making any cuts while the democrats have brought 4 trillion to the table. Obama knew the republican's were full of it and wouldn't make any kind of cuts from their side. The right got their marching orders from wall street saying essentially to stop screwing around and raise the ceiling which McConnell will immediately obey. Obama and the democrats can slam the right from now all the way through the campaign season for refusing to make any cuts to stop the debt ceiling from being raised.
I have tired of your crap and will now demand that you come up with any cut that the Dems (Obama) has suggested to get to that $4 trillion. Not one cut has been suggested, just that the would cut the budget. Wait ..... .. .. there is no budget this year so there is nothing to cut.
Come on and tell me what cuts Obama has suggested other than a total amount.
Right go hurry up and tell because your little argument got smashed...LOL
You didnt even begin to smash my argument, you just pretended to make a point and then got upset when I asked you to clairify your point because you couldnt.. I see you went back and changed your posting, jees, wonder why
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Originally Posted by reconmark
As for citing the constitution, if you can't connect the dots of a political party stating that it will uphold party doctrine instead of "faithfully discharging their duties"..gee what can we label you???
Congress does not have a duty to raise taxes.. If you dont comprehend that, then what can we label you? What part of the Constitution says Congress is duty bound to RAISE taxes? I'll wait for you to re-read your constitution to find that mandate that says there is an obligation to increase taxes.
Also, btw, again, arent you one of those posters who supported Wisconsin Democrats who fled to another state, thus NOT doing their job?
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Does anyone else not see how this undermines their oath to " faithfully discharge the duties" of their office as representatives of this country first and foremost.
FAIL.. Their duty is to defend the CONSTITUTION, not the office or the country. If you cant even comprehend their oath of office, then you are the last one to tell others what it means. If anything, they violate their oath of office everytime they DO vote for a tax increase to pay for some of those liberal programs which the Constitution DIRECTLY says, it not the job of the Federal Government.
And that is the very reason I want to see this crap debated before they vote. Reid is not real honest and surely he and his boys have figured out some way to take the GOP again.
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