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Old 07-17-2011, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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What's wrong with genetically modified crops? Humans have been genetically modifying things ever since we figured out how to do it. The sweet corn on the cob I had for dinner definitely isn't the Mexican maize that its genes came from.

Instead of altering the genetic code by plant grafting Monsanto alters the code using a test tube.

 
Old 07-17-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What's wrong with genetically modified crops? Humans have been genetically modifying things ever since we figured out how to do it. The sweet corn on the cob I had for dinner definitely isn't the Mexican maize that its genes came from.

Instead of altering the genetic code by plant grafting Monsanto alters the code using a test tube.
Yes but then the seed of that corn is not viable so you have to buy more Monsanto seed. You cannot save seeds and the heirlooms become cross pollinated and then Monsanto wants money from you because "their genes" got into your corn which also becomes sterile for future planting.

Monsanto has it so that you can only get one planting and you have to buy from them every year. Farmers cannot save their seeds anymore nor can they do their own cross pollination.

But maybe that doesn't matter to you as long as you can buy food in the supermarket.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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What's wrong with genetically modified crops? Humans have been genetically modifying things ever since we figured out how to do it. The sweet corn on the cob I had for dinner definitely isn't the Mexican maize that its genes came from.

Instead of altering the genetic code by plant grafting Monsanto alters the code using a test tube.
er uh you mean "whats wrong with being a guinea pig?"
 
Old 07-17-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What's wrong with genetically modified crops? Humans have been genetically modifying things ever since we figured out how to do it. The sweet corn on the cob I had for dinner definitely isn't the Mexican maize that its genes came from.

Instead of altering the genetic code by plant grafting Monsanto alters the code using a test tube.
Not a big deal to grow genetically modified crops, so long as the grower guarantees that no cross pollination occurs. Otherwise, you are violating property rights of neighboring farms by infecting their bounty with your inferior garbage.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Yes but then the seed of that corn is not viable so you have to buy more Monsanto seed. You cannot save seeds and the heirlooms become cross pollinated and then Monsanto wants money from you because "their genes" got into your corn which also becomes sterile for future planting.

Monsanto has it so that you can only get one planting and you have to buy from them every year. Farmers cannot save their seeds anymore nor can they do their own cross pollination.

But maybe that doesn't matter to you as long as you can buy food in the supermarket.
I did not know that. However, nature will as sure as sh*t find a work around.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yes but then the seed of that corn is not viable so you have to buy more Monsanto seed. You cannot save seeds and the heirlooms become cross pollinated and then Monsanto wants money from you because "their genes" got into your corn which also becomes sterile for future planting.

Monsanto has it so that you can only get one planting and you have to buy from them every year. Farmers cannot save their seeds anymore nor can they do their own cross pollination.

But maybe that doesn't matter to you as long as you can buy food in the supermarket.
Ha! Beat me to it.

Hungary saw this as a national security issue. A foreign agent was threatening to invade their agriculture base, and they took care of the problem. Good on them. Hungary also relies more heavily on AG than many other countries, with half of their land used to cultivate on, due to very favorable soil conditions. They also make some of the most expensive and highly rated dessert wine in the world. They have a lot at stake.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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Yah for Hungary. GMO food is a bigger deal than many people realize. This isn't simple hybrids. Lot's at stake.

You want to eat soy that can sterilize sterilize you?
In tests w/ mice after the 6th generation they could no longer reproduce.

Monsanto is a serious monster.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Ha! Beat me to it.

Hungary saw this as a national security issue. A foreign agent was threatening to invade their agriculture base, and they took care of the problem. Good on them. Hungary also relies more heavily on AG than many other countries, with half of their land used to cultivate on, due to very favorable soil conditions. They also make some of the most expensive and highly rated dessert wine in the world. They have a lot at stake.
Yeah..Mexico found out the hard way. They "had" the most varieties of maize (corn) and some heirlooms went back hundreds of years.

Mexico has said no to Monsanto regarding GM Corn but it has made its way down there and is now testing positive in the native corn.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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Monsanto is one of the most evil corporations in the world. Chile told em to stuff their GM crops too after the big quake. They said they already had one tragedy don't need two. They have one of their main backers in Tom Vilsak appointed by Obama to the head of the FDA too along with their "food czar" as pointed out earlier.
 
Old 07-17-2011, 09:49 PM
 
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Her is also what Monsanto does these sob's. They find a farmer that has been pollinated with their patented seed from crossing over via wind or whatever and then sue em in court to pay their technology fees. They're basically trying to put those who don't use their gm garbage out of business. They also sue folks who they think are "hiding seeds". All under the watchful and supportive eyes of the FDA.
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