I don't get it. The GOP complains about cutting Medicare. Then they cut (eliminate) Medicare (employment, premium)

[VTHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Majin

To further the point. Forget the commentator, the source is the congressional budget office and bloomberg. Where are your guys sources?

Speaking of sources, where does the money for all these social programs come from?

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by buzzards27

real easy to make unsupported claims. let's see what you got. For starters, point out what was false in the video link.... Is there one fact presented in that video that you can disprove?

Does it matter what the source of information is? You automatically dismiss information because of the source? you really that far gone, that you can only believe what you hear in your wing nut echo chamber?

KNOWN TO LIE???? got the FACTS of that one?

sounds like this is only opinion...

Then list the facts so they can be disputed.. I'll wait patiently because you had no problem with the OP or the video making unsupported claims.. Ooh I get it, you accept opinions that you agree with as facts..

Originally Posted by Majin

To further the point. Forget the commentator, the source is the congressional budget office and bloomberg. Where are your guys sources?

I dont see a link to the CBO report.. I thought you wanted to discuss sources..

[Memphis1979]

Originally Posted by Majin

Can someone please explain this to me?



Summary:

During the Obamacare debate, the GOP complained that Obamacare would hurt seniors by cutting Medicare by $500 billion. Then they unanimously vote to eliminate medicare and replace it with vouches that does not guarantee benefits like medicare does. In which every single independent analysis states that seniors will be paying more out of pocket expenses.

With the deflections, someone please explain this to me.

Neither can a lot of older voters. First the Republicans demonized death panels and rationing medicare, then turn around and suggest the exact same thing.

[Majin]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

Speaking of sources, where does the money for all these social programs come from?

Tax payers.

[Nafster]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

Speaking of sources, where does the money for all these social programs come from?

You.

And other tax payers.

Because, you know, we as a nation are supposed to care and take care of one another. Like other developed nations do.

So when you're dying of an illness and can't get covered....... don't whine. You'll be dead because of yourself.

Bye bye!

[buzzards27]

LOL, don't turn it toward me, you made the claim that the video was bogus, back up your claim. otherwise you are nothing but a wing nut hack that throws opinion out and expects everyone to belive your opinion over fact.

Originally Posted by pghquest

Then list the facts so they can be disputed.. I'll wait patiently because you had no problem with the OP or the video making unsupported claims.. Ooh I get it, you accept opinions that you agree with as facts..

I dont see a link to the CBO report.. I thought you wanted to discuss sources..

you never let the facts get in the way of your talking points agenda.

[grimace8]

Originally Posted by pghquest

There is no guaranteed benefits in medicare.

wrong!

and it's "are" not "is"

[Oerdin]

The GOP are liars. Nothing new there.

[TheDirector]

To be fair to the non-believers of Cenk's video from MSNBC....

If Glen Beck told me the sky was blue I would have to go outside and check to see myself.

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by Majin

Can someone please explain this to me?



Summary:

During the Obamacare debate, the GOP complained that Obamacare would hurt seniors by cutting Medicare by $500 billion. Then they unanimously vote to eliminate medicare and replace it with vouches that does not guarantee benefits like medicare does. In which every single independent analysis states that seniors will be paying more out of pocket expenses.

With the deflections, someone please explain this to me.

While it is clear your curiosity is disingenuous I will bite. The complaint about Medicate cuts was the Dems wanted to cut the only program that was cost effective and gave seniors real choice, Medicare Advantage. While you describe what Republicans are proposing as cuts, that isn't accurate, it is a revamp of the program. As Medicare is due to go bust in 10 years and Obamacare will accelerate that process. It is clear the Republican plan is the sensible plan.