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Most of us who "grew up in that era" have found that there were mistakes made on both sides involved. Most of us can lucidly recall the sentiment of the times, both parties involved, and the events as they unfolded. The results were tragic, but in retrospaect nothing beyond reasonable expectations.
To claim that the protestors were "unarmed" is tell only part of the story. Those who make such statements casually forget the rioting and damage to local businesses, the arson of a building on campus, nor the treatment of police and fire officials who were trying to extinguish the fire. Painting the protestors as totally innocent is far from truthful.
People who are drawn by the mob mentality of the moment certainly should have realized that the National Guard was not sent there to sit on their hands. Any reasonably intelligent individual would not be part of a rowdy, rock-throwing crowd only a short distance from armed National Guardsmen.
A nation we can learn from its mistakes, make the appropriate changes, and move forward. We can't change the past. Get over it and move on.
Were you there?
The ROTC building was going to be torn down.
Try learning about what really happened yourself.
There's a lot of information out there.
A small amount of property damage doesn't equal a reason to murder people on a campus.
The death of 55,000 service people and numerous Vietnames, Cambodians, Laotians needed to be protested.
No one from the US can complain about how terrible it is for protesters in other countries meeting violence when they dismiss the same in the US.
When did any of those actions become capital offenses, sentence to be carried out without benefit of trial? BTW, at least one of those killed was doing nothing but going to class. I suppose you'll casually lay that off to collateral damage.
Rioting, looting, arson, destruction of public property, and assault on public law enforcement are all offenses that could require the use of deadly force. Additionally, there was an investigation of the incidents surrounding the shootings as well as the shootings themselves. Apparently you didn't get the memo, but no one was charged with a capital offense. Both sides were found equally at fault.
As far as the "collateral" damage you chose to highlight, ......accidents happen. That's part of everyday living,....or dying.
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Rioting, looting, arson, destruction of public property, and assault on public law enforcement are all offenses that could require the use of deadly force. Additionally, there was an investigation of the incidents surrounding the shootings as well as the shootings themselves. Apparently you didn't get the memo, but no one was charged with a capital offense. Both sides were found equally at fault.
As far as the "collateral" damage you chose to highlight, ......accidents happen. That's part of everyday living,....or dying.
Unless you can point out in the criminal code where any of your named crimes justify deadly force I can use only one word to describe your opinions_________________BULLSH*T!
And your 'accidents happen' is just more BS.
I hope you're childless, I'd hate to see children being raised by someone so accepting of that kind of alleged accident.
Rioting, looting, arson, destruction of public property, and assault on public law enforcement are all offenses that could require the use of deadly force.
Mind-blowing!
Please, move to Afghanistan or North Korea, you'd be much happier there...
Were you there?
The ROTC building was going to be torn down.
Try learning about what really happened yourself.
There's a lot of information out there.
A small amount of property damage doesn't equal a reason to murder people on a campus.
The death of 55,000 service people and numerous Vietnames, Cambodians, Laotians needed to be protested.
No one from the US can complain about how terrible it is for protesters in other countries meeting violence when they dismiss the same in the US.
Nope,...wasn't there. Not necessary to discuss the topic.
Had I been there, you can rest assured that I wouldn't be facing armed National Guardsmen, throwing rocks at firemen/policemen, cutting fire hoses, setting buildings ablaze, rioting, breaking windows downtown, or taking part in other lawless activities.
Apparently some think that an individual can stick his arm inside a sack of rattlesnakes and not get bitten. Stupidity and mob mentality do not mix.
I agree you never want to mess with arm civilians that are in military unifrom and especailly drive them to backoff to a no way out postion. Its very dangerous to do so.Its called puching buttons and people get killed like that still.The ole he'she would shoot thaty gun is a mistaken belief if pushed enough.Its happened thru out history.
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Nope,...wasn't there. Not necessary to discuss the topic.
Had I been there, you can rest assured that I wouldn't be facing armed National Guardsmen, throwing rocks at firemen/policemen, cutting fire hoses, setting buildings ablaze, rioting, breaking windows downtown, or taking part in other lawless activities.
Apparently some think that an individual can stick his arm inside a sack of rattlesnakes and not get bitten. Stupidity and mob mentality do not mix.
And BEYOND mere stupidity, well beyond asinine, more in line with the regimes of Syria and Libya, some believe in America that "throwing rocks at firemen/policemen, cutting fire hoses, setting buildings ablaze, rioting, breaking windows downtown" warrant execution without a trial.
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I agree you never want to mess with arm civilians that are in military unifrom and especailly drive them to backoff to a no way out postion. Its very dangerous to do so.Its called puching buttons and people get killed like that still.The ole he'she would shoot thaty gun is a mistaken belief if pushed enough.Its happened thru out history.
Armed civilians? The uniforms say they weren't. And happening through out history doesn't make something right.
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Perfectly happy where I live.
You might be well advised to know that many states allow the use of deadly force to protect ones life and property.
I gave your comments the nanosecond of consideration they deserved.
Do you have knowledge of exactly what the law in 1970 Ohio was or just blowing more smoke out your butt?
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