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Old 04-07-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Ahh yes crazy bats*** conspiracy theories, made up stuff against actual factrs. I wonder was that the certificate that Orily Tatiz entered in court with documents that she called him a monkey??

Damn silly actual websites like fact check and actual certified and verified documents by actual Hawaii officials, its conspiracy time...
If you cared to read the first link it's a democrat that made the assertion.

There are too many indications that something is amiss for me to state with a certainty either way. I would like to believe he is a U.S. Citizen, But when his paternal grandmother, and half brother and sister all claim he was born in Kenya.

Unless you wish to call all of them liars....

Like I said, too many unanswered questions.

 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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I'm making fun of "The Donald", he is a bloody fool....
Ah yes, the liberal way. Nothing of substance to contribute, so they resort to name calling and mockery. Very adult.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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The sitting Democrat Governor tried to find it and couldn't.
False. Abercrombie said no such thing. Obama's original records are in archives. They're not missing. WND or whatever birther site you read has lied to you.

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And to boot, Hawaii is the only state, I believe, that you can get a COLB even if you weren't born there. Go figure.
How come you didn't post a link SourD? I thought you said it's a TOS violation not to do so!

Anyway, you omitted some very important information from your "belief."

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Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”
‘Birther’ Movement Dogs Republicans | The Washington Independent
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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If you take a look at my posting history I refrain from playing the race baiter game. However, in a case like this when Obama has gone further than anyone else to prove his eligibility by releasing his birth certificate which has been verified and certified by the state of Hawaii, there really is no other reason why people don't think he was born here. The only things that make since is either pure and complete bats*** insanity (straightjacket type) or racism.
There may be no other reason for YOU, but that does not give you the right to accuse others of doing something that you only think they have done without actual proof of it.

Race baiting is exactly what you are doing.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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yes, and the only reason people believe in a cover up in this case is that they can't stand the fact we have a President with dark skin. Really there is no reason to believe a cover up of this magnitude unless you are either completely bats*** insane or a racist. Its absolutely asinine.
Hiding behind the race baiting card. Getting old, dude, getting old.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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As of 1982 you can get a 4th kind of BC in Hawaii and you didn't even have to be born there, your parents only needed 1 year of residency
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2. In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fourth kind of birth certificate for children born outside of the Territory or State of Hawaii. HRS Chapter 338 was amended to add a new section authorizing the Director of the Department of Health to issue a birth certificate for a person NOT born in Hawaii either as a Territory or State, upon sufficient proof that the legal parents of such individual had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth of such child.
Count the ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'

Hawaii Birth Certificates – Overview | Native and Natural Born Citizenship Explored
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Obama produced a legal state verified birth certificate almost three years ago. Really there is no other reason why anyone could think Obama is not a citizen unless they have a problem with black people. Or quite simply perhaps just do not believe in the law or legal documents....
Although I've never said so on C-D, I've felt the same way since this nonsense started a couple of years ago.

People can go on about how it is not his skin color, etc all they want...I don't buy it for a minute.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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And to boot, Hawaii is the only state, I believe, that you can get a COLB even if you weren't born there. Go figure.
It wouldn't show you were born in Hawaii if you were born elsewhere.....
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: On Top
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<snip>But when his paternal grandmother, and half brother and sister all claim he was born in Kenya.

Unless you wish to call all of them liars....
No they aren't liars, Ron McRae deceived you by editing the recording with Obama's
grandma, here is the COMPLETE recording....

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-co...12/8167169.wma
 
Old 04-07-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If you cared to read the first link it's a democrat that made the assertion.

There are too many indications that something is amiss for me to state with a certainty either way. I would like to believe he is a U.S. Citizen, But when his paternal grandmother, and half brother and sister all claim he was born in Kenya.

Unless you wish to call all of them liars....

Like I said, too many unanswered questions.
His paternal step-grandmother said no such thing! This has been thoroughly discredited. The so-called "pastor" who sought to dupe her into saying otherwise should be defrocked.

What's Your Evidence?: Was Obama Born in Kenya? (Part 2 - Grandmother/Family Info)

A YouTube Video is now available regarding the reported call to Sarah Obama, Obama's step-grandmother. It is available here. Listening to the full tape, particularly from 5:50-8:00, makes clear that Ms. Obama clarifies that Obama was born in Hawaii.

1/6 Update: As noted above, while we have found dozens of references to reports that Obama's half- brother and sister claim he was born in Kenya, we have not located the actual reports. Additionally, Obama's uncle, Sayid Obama, has stated that Obama's first time in Kenya was in 1987.

It's not Obama's step-grandmother, brother and sister who are the liars.
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