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Old 03-09-2011, 06:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Antlered Chamataka View Post
Do you expect people filing for bankruptcy to beg in the freeway exits??
Nope. Given the facts surrounding this couple's situation why do you ask such a question?

Do you expect people filinig for bakruptsy to take 4 star hotel vacations, spend $275 on beauty supplies and $200 on pet food and so on?

That's where people like you and me differ. Greatly.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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WTH?

How do people legally get away with this crap?

"Lisa and Stephen Furry have hit financial rock bottom, even though they're not acting like it. The couple filed for bankruptcy a little more than a year ago, wiping out $50,000 in credit card debt, yet their household spending outstrips their income. They shop at Whole Foods, spend freely on beauty products and splurged on a wedding anniversary getaway to Santa Barbara — at a four-star hotel.....'

".....Even without the house payments, Hartman figured the Furrys were spending as much as $1,000 more a month than was coming in...."


"....Lisa spent about $275 a month on beauty products and services.....'


".....The couple's pets, which include a rabbit, cost about $200 a month....."

After bankruptcy filing, couple's spending continued - Los Angeles Times
I didn't read the article but from what I know of bankruptcy, the judge can opt to not discharge your debts if you prove that you are still spending unwisely. If they did reorganization (forgot which chapter is which), their trustee can dismiss the case as a whole. You can only file like once very 7 or 10 years so they are only screwing themselves if their case has already been closed.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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This is part of the reason we have seen a "bounce" in the economy, we have millions of people not paying rent or a mortgage, yet they are out spending. Some studies put this figure at a positive $12 billion a month to the economy.

What will happen when reality sets in?
The gov't will give us free stuff.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Typical flathead conservative behavior.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:37 PM
 
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I didn't read the article but from what I know of bankruptcy, the judge can opt to not discharge your debts if you prove that you are still spending unwisely. If they did reorganization (forgot which chapter is which), their trustee can dismiss the case as a whole. You can only file like once very 7 or 10 years so they are only screwing themselves if their case has already been closed.
Chapter 13 is a repayment plan, chapter 7 is discharge of debt.. But the problem with your scenario is that often times the spending wont begin back up until after the bk is discharged. Creditors will re-open credit for most people at a high interest rate after you file bk because they know you cant file it again for another 7-10 years..
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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No. We do expect them to cut spending.

To emulate Obama and the federal government is not a wise fiscal policy.
Why do you expect them to do *anything*? News flash - there are lots of dumb folks out there doing dumb stuff. This is simply one example.

@the OP - "How do they legally get away with this?"

They stopped paying their mortgage and have diverted the money to other things. They will reap the consequences of that terrible choice, as well.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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Why not? They are simply following Obama's "leadership".
umm nannnn BUSH
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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The gov't will give us free stuff.
NO
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:00 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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The gov't will give us free stuff.
Ya that will work forever.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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Ya that will work forever.
I have the audacity to HOPE.
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