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Old 03-06-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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You need to remember, that a lot of illegal stuff available on the internet are not available on U.S. servers, so the U.S. cannot touch any server that falls outside its jurisdiction. They tried to do that with a popular P2P site but the actual server is located somewhere in Africa, so Sweden and the EU were not able to shut it down.

And on another note, regulation of the internet, Chinese or Australian (they tried to filter the internet through the ISP level and failed) style, is always a bad thing as governments have an extremely bad habit and a horrible track record of stepping outside its original boundaries



Ok tough guy. Why don't we do that with all the criminals in the U.S.? Let's be like the Saudis and Taliban, and chop the hands off criminals and stone adulterers to death. You'd be happy living in a Shariah country wouldn't you. Or China for that matter
No tough guy. Just child molesters! you can pray for them or defend them all you want. There is no cure and they will repeat their deeds. Some people are worth saving...some people are not.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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No tough guy. Just child molesters! you can pray for them or defend them all you want. There is no cure and they will repeat their deeds. Some people are worth saving...some people are not.
I hope you're not a Christian. Because if you are, you will be judged for what you said. It's not up to you who is saved and who isn't. Ever hear the saying, "hate the sin, not the sinner?" Maybe you should pray on that for a while
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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So if someone came up with a cure for this psychological illness, you'd be against helping these people?
Of course I would want to help these people. There is no cure, Until then?

How can someone not support GPS devices for child molesters?

The lock and throw away the key is not going to happen and was more tongue in cheek but I'm 100% serious about GPS devices for all child molesters.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Of course I would want to help these people. There is no cure, Until then?

How can someone not support GPS devices for child molesters?

The lock and throw away the key is not going to happen and was more tongue in cheek but I'm 100% serious about GPS devices for all child molesters.
So if someone is diagnosed with the possibility of being a child pornographer, would you lock them up, even though they haven't been convicted by a jury of their peers?

Many people have similar psychological profiles similar to serial killers, yet haven't killed, nor will kill anyone.

You said before that we shouldn't help them, all I'm saying is that if there is a way to help them, we should do that. We should also study to find a way to cure them.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Of course I would want to help these people. There is no cure, Until then?

How can someone not support GPS devices for child molesters?

The lock and throw away the key is not going to happen and was more tongue in cheek but I'm 100% serious about GPS devices for all child molesters.
And how is GPS going to stop them? A GPS only shows the location of someone, not what they are doing. So a GPS would not prevent another act of crime. A GPS will not prevent any crime at all, it ONLY works if they are under house arrest. That, in my opinion, is far far more effective than a stupid sex offender registry that only exists because it's a "feel good" non-solution.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:48 PM
 
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So if someone is diagnosed with the possibility of being a child pornographer, would you lock them up, even though they haven't been convicted by a jury of their peers?

Many people have similar psychological profiles similar to serial killers, yet haven't killed, nor will kill anyone.

You said before that we shouldn't help them, all I'm saying is that if there is a way to help them, we should do that. We should also study to find a way to cure them.
I agree. Something like that, is mental illness. These are not crimes of opportunity like burgling, stealing cars, etc. They are no different from people that suffer from other debilitating mentla illnesses. The problem is so many people are programmed to froth at the mouth when they hear sex offender, that no one wants to help them. Whatever happened to the term "Corrections" in the law enforcement division? There's certainly no "Corrections" happening. People need to stop thinking that all of society's problems are solved by what amounts to, a long term time-out.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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And how is GPS going to stop them? A GPS only shows the location of someone, not what they are doing. So a GPS would not prevent another act of crime. A GPS will not prevent any crime at all, it ONLY works if they are under house arrest. That, in my opinion, is far far more effective than a stupid sex offender registry that only exists because it's a "feel good" non-solution.
Who said it would prevent crimes? It makes it easier to track them and would all but eliminate absconders.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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I hope you're not a Christian. Because if you are, you will be judged for what you said. It's not up to you who is saved and who isn't. Ever hear the saying, "hate the sin, not the sinner?" Maybe you should pray on that for a while
so let me be judged. I'm not worried, are you?
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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Who said it would prevent crimes? It makes it easier to track them and would all but eliminate absconders.
The problem because many are absconders is because you have a counter-productive and useless program called the sex offender registry. That's why so many fall off the radar after a while. And you let them back into the neighborhood and put them under house arrest, OR you put them into a long-term mental facility. That's how you try to solve the problem.

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so let me be judged. I'm not worried, are you?
No. I have no need to.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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The problem because many are absconders is because you have a counter-productive and useless program called the sex offender registry. That's why so many fall off the radar after a while. And you let them back into the neighborhood and put them under house arrest, OR you put them into a long-term mental facility. That's how you try to solve the problem.



No. I have no need to.
You do know that when you go on house arrest they slap a device on you. Right? So I can agree with that. Do you think a guard stands at the door? They can and will leave to commit more crimes.

Sending them to a long care mental health facility is pretty much locking them up and throwing away the key. so I can also agree with that.
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