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Old 02-13-2011, 06:42 PM
 
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Certainly whether you believe that 1) global warming is man made, 2) global warming is not man made, or 3) there is no global waring, - it makes sense to reduce pumping crud into the air.

I agree with that..... man should not be duming waste into the air, into the sea, or into the land, but it's what man does.

Man used to live with out much of a trace left behind, but alas modern man has no idea and will leave a legacy of trash to last 1,000+ years after the last man is gone.

I object to fairy tales with the idea to get TAXES.

Modern man isn't going with out his plastics and trash, useless items he has for toys.

I am not going with out mine and I live in the last 10,000 years when ever i want. I am one of the last cave men paleo people, and can make all those tools too. I can be anyone i want from then to right now.

Back on Novemeber i got paid good money to be a paloe man.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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local variations are considered Global Climate Change not global warming..
Wow a Voice of reason. Glad to see it amongst the talk radio and Tv drones.
Thank you. Both Glaciers and Palm trees were once located in what is now New Jersey.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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There's no doubt that if people cut down enough trees and pave over a large amount of land and pump enough junk into the atmosphere that we can damage the climate but it looks like some control freaks want to project their carbon market derivatives for the mega banks to trade or a central bank controlled cap and trade scam on all of us which will not help the environment at all.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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There's no doubt that if people cut down enough trees and pave over a large amount of land and pump enough junk into the atmosphere that we can damage the climate but it looks like some control freaks want to project their carbon market derivatives for the mega banks to trade or a central bank controlled cap and trade scam on all of us which will not help the environment at all.
It's always interesting how many people bring politics into it. There is so much fear of a government intrusion that they blind themselves to the science and ignore the simple fact that, as mentioned above, we need to stop pumping crud into the air.

If you don't like one party's political solution, come up with another. If all you people spent a 10th of the energy on creating new technologies and innovations on the free market to reduce the need to pollute as you do arguing over protecting the status quo, our unemployment rate would probably be below 5% already and we'd be leading the world into the next industrial revolution.

As it is, you all just sqwak away, waiting for someone else to fix it. Sounds a lot like welfare dependence to me.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It's always interesting how many people bring politics into it. There is so much fear of a government intrusion that they blind themselves to the science and ignore the simple fact that, as mentioned above, we need to stop pumping crud into the air.

If you don't like one party's political solution, come up with another. If all you people spent a 10th of the energy on creating new technologies and innovations on the free market to reduce the need to pollute as you do arguing over protecting the status quo, our unemployment rate would probably be below 5% already and we'd be leading the world into the next industrial revolution.

As it is, you all just sqwak away, waiting for someone else to fix it. Sounds a lot like welfare dependence to me.
Do you get a good wage from Algore for trying to uphold all his crap that he has made a fortune from?
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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Do you get a good wage from Algore for trying to uphold all his crap that he has made a fortune from?
I'm going to turn your favorite game back on you: Did you even read what I wrote? It has nothing to do with what you wrote.

Also be sure to read my first post where I point out that anybody who refers to Al Gore reveals themselves to those of us who are educated on this subject that you really don't have a clue what you're talking about because he's a hypocritical politician with a slide show and not a scientist.

Also, are you aware that referring to a grown man by a nickname given by a talk radio entertainer makes you seem like a mindless sheep parroting what you're told to say? Did you know that I proved two lies (out of countless) that Glenn Beck told and you still haven't kissed my ring in submission to me?

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Old 02-13-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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I'm going to turn your favorite game back on you: Did you even read what I wrote? It has nothing to do with what you wrote.

Also be sure to read my first post where I point out that anybody who refers to Al Gore reveals themselves to those of us who are educated on this subject that you really don't have a clue what you're talking about because he's a hypocritical politician with a slide show and not a scientist.

Also, are you aware that referring to a grown man by a nickname given by a talk radio entertainer makes you seem like a mindless sheep parroting what you're told to say? Did you know that I proved two lies (out of countless) that Glenn Beck told and you still haven't kissed my ring in submission to me?
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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It's always interesting how many people bring politics into it. There is so much fear of a government intrusion that they blind themselves to the science and ignore the simple fact that, as mentioned above, we need to stop pumping crud into the air.

If you don't like one party's political solution, come up with another. If all you people spent a 10th of the energy on creating new technologies and innovations on the free market to reduce the need to pollute as you do arguing over protecting the status quo, our unemployment rate would probably be below 5% already and we'd be leading the world into the next industrial revolution.

As it is, you all just sqwak away, waiting for someone else to fix it. Sounds a lot like welfare dependence to me.
Yeah I understand but given what has happened in recent years with the stock market/gambling casino I have no desire to see them have another wealth transfer mechanism to trade. Also there are significant sources of energy throughout the solar system and beyond but that goes beyond the scope of this thread.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Ahh, every winter we have the "it's cold outside so that must mean there is no climate change" threads. Will dumb people never learn the difference between short term weather and long term averages like climate? Of course not.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Fort Worthless, Texastan
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We tell them this over and over and over in thread after thread after thread on this subject. Either:

1.) They don't care about facts.
2.) They're too stupid to understand the difference between weather and climate.
3.) They simply love to troll the forum for reactions.
4.) All of the above.

I think it's #4, with a heavy emphasis on #2.
You hit the nail on the head with #3. By this point, it's hard to believe that people this dim could even operate a computer, so I think it's just trolling. There is probably still a good amount of stupidity and ignorance in it too, which is the reason I've stopped trying to explain the difference between "weather" and "climate"--it'd be like trying to fill a swimming pool with an eye dropper.
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