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Old 01-09-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I certainly don't want to get into trading idiots, but I do agree with your assessment of Grayson.
Finally, common ground no matter what your political leanings. Grayson was too much of a freak for any party to stomach.

 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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It could have terrible pro-government ramifications.

spot on! morons like the shooter and the idiots who sent a letter bomb to janet napolitano only give big govt an excuse to grow bigger! do these halfwits ever think about that?
on top of that, libertarians all get tarred with that right wing nutjob brush! our struggle as libertarians is to make convincing argument that smaller govt is better for everyone. it's pretty difficult to do that when from within our ranks, morons, apart from killing politicians and children, are killing our credibility!

on a more positive note, it seems as though rep giffords might actually make it. my thoughts however go out to the others who didn't and their families
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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Hmmmmmm........................................... ...................................

So let me get this straight, OK?

You shoot a.....JEWISH DEMOCRAT.....in one of the most Republican-leaning states in the country, and Conservatives are outraged that SOME media might try to connect the dots to see.....IF.....it was a politically or religiously motivated murder?

Odds are the guy was an outright NUT CASE.
But as of yet, that is NOT a 100% given, or at least the authorities aren't saying so?

Steve
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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......Is reporting this bad or a coverup ?
Neither, it is irrelevant to the event that led to his death. He was not the target, he was not part of the event. He merely stopped by on his way home from Mass.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: FL
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I do hope that if any thing comes out of this tragedy is that all sides get to together to make this country strong instead of bickering over who is right or wrong as we all go down the toilet.

I am praying for all people involved and let us not forget the bystanders that were there to see the horrible site.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Hmmmmmm........................................... ...................................

So let me get this straight, OK?

You shoot a.....JEWISH DEMOCRAT.....in one of the most Republican-leaning states in the country, and Conservatives are outraged that SOME media might try to connect the dots to see.....IF.....it was a politically or religiously motivated murder?

Odds are the guy was an outright NUT CASE.
But as of yet, that is NOT a 100% given, or at least the authorities aren't saying so?

Steve
I guarantee it's the mainscream who are holding bull sessions in their backrooms to add some left spin to this gutter ball.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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German historians are leftist? Must have missed something. Nazis are considered far right in Germany, not by leftist but by definition.

The book, that btw is called Mein Kampf and not Mein Kempf (that word does not exist), also includes Hitler's disdain for marxism so the claim this is a leftist book is ridiculous.
Read the Nazi Party platform:

- We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.
- The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:...an end to the power of the financial interests.
- We demand profit sharing in big business.
- We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.
- We demand...the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.
- In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education
- The government must undertake the improvement of public health
- [We] combat the...materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good
(Source: Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente 1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31)

The Nazi Party's goals are more closely aligned with leftist ideology.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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She was #4 on Palin's crosshairs list ... NICE!!!!

grow up! i can't stand palin either but to suggest that she is in any way responsible is very childish
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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Just to be clear, his "high school friend" hasn't been interviewed by police yet, and any major news outlets.

Her statements are coming from twitter. But they and his writings are all we've seen on his personal views yet. We'll have a better picture by the end of the week.

His personal writings range from hating large government (a conservative Republican stance) to feeling that the rich are holding down the poor (a liberal Democratic stance).

At this point, we really just don't know.
A whole lot more credible at this point than all you people claiming he belonged to the Republican party or Tea Party movement - at least she actually knew him. You guys are just making up the connections with conservatives parties.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Gearhound View Post
Hmmmmmm........................................... ...................................

So let me get this straight, OK?

You shoot a.....JEWISH DEMOCRAT.....in one of the most Republican-leaning states in the country, and Conservatives are outraged that SOME media might try to connect the dots to see.....IF.....it was a politically or religiously motivated murder?

Odds are the guy was an outright NUT CASE.
But as of yet, that is NOT a 100% given, or at least the authorities aren't saying so?

Steve
So you are admitting with this that it was liberals who shot Reagan and shot at Ford?
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