1 Month till REAL Hope and Change (Iran, Iraq, illegal, Pelosi)

[blackandproud]

Originally Posted by antarez

In January 2010 when the newly elected Republicans take office we will be seeing the tide turn in favor of Americans against the Weak Traitor Obama.

If he pursues his Liberal agenda there will be gridlock,we will see Americans take Obama to task for Pandering to Illegal Aliens,continuing 2 wars that he promised to end,trying to violate American's rights by forcing them to pay for Obamacare they do not want and spending his way to record deficits.

In January the clock starts ticking and his political career faces extinction. The False Messiah will no longer have free reign to reinvent the US as a Socialist State. Even the moderate Democrats will join Independents and jump ship.

[Opyelie]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

If voting can't change anything, why vote?
That IS insanity...

If voting actually changed anything they would have outlawed it long ago

[Donna-501]

When January comes it will be 2011 and nothing will change.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by antarez

In January 2010 when the newly elected Republicans take office we will be seeing the tide turn in favor of Americans against the Weak Traitor Obama.

If he pursues his Liberal agenda there will be gridlock,we will see Americans take Obama to task for Pandering to Illegal Aliens,continuing 2 wars that he promised to end,trying to violate American's rights by forcing them to pay for Obamacare they do not want and spending his way to record deficits.

In January the clock starts ticking and his political career faces extinction. The False Messiah will no longer have free reign to reinvent the US as a Socialist State. Even the moderate Democrats will join Independents and jump ship.

Yeah!! The Republicans are gonna fix everything!! Yeah!! Right.. spare me the drivel please!

[SLCPUNK]

Originally Posted by antarez

In January 2010 when the newly elected Republicans take office we will be seeing the tide turn in favor of Americans against the Weak Traitor Obama.

If he pursues his Liberal agenda there will be gridlock,we will see Americans take Obama to task for Pandering to Illegal Aliens,continuing 2 wars that he promised to end,trying to violate American's rights by forcing them to pay for Obamacare they do not want and spending his way to record deficits.

In January the clock starts ticking and his political career faces extinction. The False Messiah will no longer have free reign to reinvent the US as a Socialist State. Even the moderate Democrats will join Independents and jump ship.

Thank goodness we can return to the fiscally sanity of the Bush era, or even Raygun. During those terms there was no debt, or deficits. Maybe we can even repeal Obama's health care plan and use the one proposed by the GOP in the 90's in lieu of Hillary's Socialist agenda. You remember that one don't you?

[paladinking]

For political matters, do not know what to say, after all, I am not a politician.

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by Bulldawg82

Because it is not the act of voting that is futile - it is party/people we vote for. We are stuck in a two party way of thinking (and that is just one party better than a dictatorship). We have allowed ourselves to be polarized into two camps by two parties who serve the same benefactors (big money). They preach seemingly different things - but when elected they migrate to the "center" thus nullifying the election.

[Danger, Will Robinson, Danger]
What you know about politics has been carefully crafted by the world's greatest propaganda ministry.
If you take time to actually read the law, in the public record, available in any county courthouse law library, you will have a different appreciation of the situation.
Before I was compelled by my own situation to investigate law, I would have not disagreed with your observations.
But after spending enough time wading through legalese, it becomes painfully obvious that Americans have been sheared like sheeple that they have become.
"They" (the real power) trust that apathy and ignorance will triumph. And from reading the many posts on this site, they have no need to worry - 99.9% of Americans are clueless.
In fact, most Americans are misled into cooperating with their tormentors, who demand our gratitude that they let us regrow our skin before they skin us again.
"Voluntary slavery" via fraud and deception is still slavery.
"Part time slavery" is still slavery.
And the sad truth, inscribed in the law, is that "we, the people" volunteered to be slaves.
Few know how and when they did so.

I will give you a hint...
Declaration of Independence (1776) declares that government's job #1 = secure rights (to life, liberty,etc) and job #2 = govern those who consent.
In the Articles of Confederation and the USCON, the government has the power to activate the "militia" and order them to train, enter into combat, and die, if necessary.
The militia are defined as all able-bodied male citizens between 17 and 45.
Can you guess what waived the militiamen's right to life, liberty, etc.?
Can you perceive the legal authority to compel the militia to train, fight and die that is NOT in violation of job #1?
Remember, American governments were instituted to secure the right to life, not to deny it.

Answer: citizenship.
In America, citizenship is a voluntary act that waives job #1. Do not believe me - go read Article IV of Confederation and pay attention to those "free inhabitants" who are not "free citizens".
Also note that in the USCON, people have rights and powers, while citizens have privileges and immunities.
What 99.9% of Americans are ignorant of is the legal status of American nationals / non-citizens (aka "sovereign people").
As sovereigns, who do not exercise political liberty, they do not vote, nor hold office, being that they're the sovereigns served by government.

So now you have to ask yourself *(and your congress man), how did "all" Americans become "U.S. citizens" at birth? Because citizens are obligated to train, fight and die on command. (That's why conscription was 100% constitutional - and not "involuntary" servitude). Did Congress suddenly get the power to enslave all Americans?
(Carefully read the 13th and 14th amendments and pay attention to which "United States" is being referenced.)

Nationality is a characteristic of birth and parentage. Citizenship is a political liberty. American nationals have the privilege to declare themselves citizens without "naturalization". But you will find no law that imposes citizenship at birth, in the 50 States united. If it did, the law would be unconstitutional since involuntary servitude is banned in the States united (see 13th amendment).

https://www.city-data.com/forum/16723365-post39.html
According to the 13th amendment, involuntary servitude was abolished in the United States of America... except after conviction. But civic duties are compulsory - with penalties for failure to perform.

The Supreme Court has held, in Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328 (1916), that the Thirteenth Amendment does not prohibit "enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc."

In Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366 (1918), the Supreme Court ruled that the military draft was not "involuntary servitude".

If compulsory military service is NOT INVOLUNTARY, then it must be voluntary servitude.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/16476988-post19.html
Reference that offers documented proof that we've been lied to for generations, check out this document:
https://www.pcip.gov/PreExistingCond...082310_508.pdf (https://www.pcip.gov/PreExistingConditionPlan_EnrollmentForm_082310_508 .pdf - broken link)
On Page 1, Section 3: Quote:
[] I am a noncitizen national of the United States

Coincidentally, in all the 50 titles of USCODE, codified from the volumes of law enacted by Congress, you will find NO law that violates the natural and personal liberty of the American national / free inhabitant domiciled upon his private property within the boundaries of the United States of America.

However, you will find innumerable references to duties and obligations of the "U.S. citizens / residents" who reside at residences, enrolled into Social Security, and are obligated to get permission (license) to do that which their forefathers did, without needing permission of government.

"Free" Americans now need to get permission (license) to travel, wed, build a house, enter occupations, operate a business, transmit radio, fly a plane, pilot a boat, buy and sell medicine and treatment, sell at retail, hunt, fish, and own a dog.

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by antarez

In January 2010 when the newly elected Republicans take office we will be seeing the tide turn in favor of Americans against the Weak Traitor Obama.

If he pursues his Liberal agenda there will be gridlock,we will see Americans take Obama to task for Pandering to Illegal Aliens,continuing 2 wars that he promised to end,trying to violate American's rights by forcing them to pay for Obamacare they do not want and spending his way to record deficits.

In January the clock starts ticking and his political career faces extinction. The False Messiah will no longer have free reign to reinvent the US as a Socialist State. Even the moderate Democrats will join Independents and jump ship.

Yes...Hip Hip Hooray! The savioirs are coming back.. They did such a great job previously that we are so lucky to have the same old revolving door lobbyist/politicians seated again. So marvelous that they will stall everyting to get the tax breaks for the rich that pay them their actual salary and perks at the expense of the American people. We should all be on cloud nine that they don't give a rat's butt for their constituencies because corporate America supports the lifestyles that these representatives have become accustomed to. As long as agent orange Boehner retains that glow on the golf courses with the lobbyists, we know all is well with the world. Praise the Lord!

[antarez]

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

Thank goodness we can return to the fiscally sanity of the Bush era, or even Raygun. During those terms there was no debt, or deficits. Maybe we can even repeal Obama's health care plan and use the one proposed by the GOP in the 90's in lieu of Hillary's Socialist agenda. You remember that one don't you?

Bush, Reagan,Clinton and whomever else in the past. America today is facing financial problems at a different level then it did in the recent past with a whole different set of variables and that will change both parties.

Obama is not only dealing with the Republicans,he also has Pelosi's (and other Dems) misguided agendas working against him also. The Financial,Mortgage and Unemployment problems go beyond just the Feds.

We are seeing cutbacks and deficits at the State,County and City levels with no solid improvement for many Americans. This is the reality on Main St., USA. Even during the past Recession/Depresions, most Americans that were still working avoided the brunt of the hardships.

With those unemployed today(or in Forclosure), no amount of spin,data manipulation,promises and even outright Lies will change anything. The solutions and/or steps taken in the past might not work in today's world.

It's time to severely limit 401B visas,deport ALL Illegal Aliens,get rid of automatic citizenship for Anchor babies. And revamp Social Services,there is no reason for generational Welfare. There's talk of raising the retirement age when there should be talk of eliminating freebies for Illegal Aliens and people that game the system.

In closing there needs to be drastic measures taken to solve drastic problems and the Government will have to do this,whether Obama agrees or not.

[Theliberalvoice]

OMG! In Jan 2011, the same party of idiots who put W in office will regain some seats!

Happy Happy! JOY JOY! Oh boy. Now we are REALLY in for a QUICK RECOVERY guys! I give it til Jan 20th.

SARCASM OFF NOW.