Teaching People To Break The LAW- Yes Or No? (illegal, drugs, speech)
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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Once again the annual "hackers convention" will attract hundreds if not thousands of people to Las Vegas this weekend. They will learn the latest greatest technologies and tools to basically do criminal acts. Virtually everything that this convention teaches is illegal including tapping into cell phones. But none the less they will learn it.
This gets back to books that teach people how to murder, make explosives and chemicals, grow or make illegal drugs and other such things. The Anarchist Cookbook was well known in the 1970s before the internet was ever heard of. High Times magazine is full of items and know how.
So the question is, do you see this as stepping over the bounds of the First Amendment or is it a form of protected speech? Hackers to get eavesdropping lessons on cell calls | Technology | Reuters
Once again the annual "hackers convention" will attract hundreds if not thousands of people to Las Vegas this weekend. They will learn the latest greatest technologies and tools to basically do criminal acts. Virtually everything that this convention teaches is illegal including tapping into cell phones. But none the less they will learn it.
This gets back to books that teach people how to murder, make explosives and chemicals, grow or make illegal drugs and other such things. The Anarchist Cookbook was well known in the 1970s before the internet was ever heard of. High Times magazine is full of items and know how.
So the question is, do you see this as stepping over the bounds of the First Amendment or is it a form of protected speech? Hackers to get eavesdropping lessons on cell calls | Technology | Reuters
No, In fact many organizations will send their security people to these to learn about various technological weaknesses to which they can use to better secure their infrastructure. Without the hacker being open about what they do, we wouldn't have as many protections we now have in the market today.
If you "ban" it, all they will do is go underground and the information will require illegal means to obtain which means most organizations would stray from being involved resulting in less efficient security knowledge and infrastructure.
Old, but still relevant as 'white hats' have always attended DefCon in huge numbers.
"Although Black Hat is called a hacker convention, most people who attend don't fit the image of the person breaking into systems with malicious intent. Many are what's known as white-hat hackers or security researchers -- people who work to find vulnerabilities and get companies to fix them, to keep others from exploiting them." Hackers tip hat to Vista security
It's protected. You can learn all you want on how to do illegal things, but it's not illegal unless you actually break the law.
Partially, but not everything.
For instance, teaching how to make a bomb is against the law. Hackers can do a lot of damage, and we are more worried about cyber terrorism today, than an actual bomb.
Most hacking is harmless, but there are cases where its quite bad. It could be only a matter of a cyber attack away, before activities like this are made illegal to teach also.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979
Partially, but not everything.
For instance, teaching how to make a bomb is against the law. Hackers can do a lot of damage, and we are more worried about cyber terrorism today, than an actual bomb.
Most hacking is harmless, but there are cases where its quite bad. It could be only a matter of a cyber attack away, before activities like this are made illegal to teach also.
Actaully it is not. They could not sell The Anarchist Cookbook if that was the case. It shows you how to make quite effective explosive devices.
Once again the annual "hackers convention" will attract hundreds if not thousands of people to Las Vegas this weekend. They will learn the latest greatest technologies and tools to basically do criminal acts. Virtually everything that this convention teaches is illegal including tapping into cell phones. But none the less they will learn it.
This gets back to books that teach people how to murder, make explosives and chemicals, grow or make illegal drugs and other such things. The Anarchist Cookbook was well known in the 1970s before the internet was ever heard of. High Times magazine is full of items and know how.
So the question is, do you see this as stepping over the bounds of the First Amendment or is it a form of protected speech? Hackers to get eavesdropping lessons on cell calls | Technology | Reuters
TempesT68 is quite correct. It is protected speech under the 1st Amendment. Anyone with a solid background in chemistry and physics will have the knowledge to write something like the "Anarchists Cookbook." You cannot make that knowledge illegal, only what someone does with that knowledge will determine whether the actions taken were legal or not.
Making certain knowledge illegal is what they did during the medieval ages to ensure illiteracy, and a measure of control, among the masses. That 800 year period is also known today as the "Dark Ages." I really don't think we want to be heading in that direction again.
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