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Old 08-09-2012, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Here's a good way to do it!

Match up the red counties in the Catholic map with the red counties in the election map.

You'll quickly discover that Catholics tend to be socially liberal, and very few conservative areas are predominantly catholic.

Areas of North and South Dekota, eastern Nebraska, central Kansas, and northern Montana, are the only main areas that overlap.
Eh, looks like you could make some case for upstate NY, but of course the state on the whole would be less conservative generally. The red doesn't get as bright there, but it does tend towards red.

The high Catholic areas line up with the purple areas mainly. That is not too surprising in my experience.

Northwestern South Dakota, extreme eastern Colorado, I don't know what's in these places (as well as the Nebraska, Kansas, etc). I get the feeling they're going to be pretty rural. And county-wide basis doesn't always tell the story anyway.

You can see around Pittsburgh that surrounding counties are still fairly purple, a reddish purple seems like, but it's still a split.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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Why not take the extra step and openly say "I don't want any black, gay, nonchristian neighbors" around my family? If the OP is going to be ignorant, why not just admit what he/she is really thinking?
There are no words.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:28 PM
 
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Eh, looks like you could make some case for upstate NY, but of course the state on the whole would be less conservative generally. The red doesn't get as bright there, but it does tend towards red.

The high Catholic areas line up with the purple areas mainly. That is not too surprising in my experience.

Northwestern South Dakota, extreme eastern Colorado, I don't know what's in these places (as well as the Nebraska, Kansas, etc). I get the feeling they're going to be pretty rural. And county-wide basis doesn't always tell the story anyway.

You can see around Pittsburgh that surrounding counties are still fairly purple, a reddish purple seems like, but it's still a split.
Based on what he shared (and read his other threads!), Pittsburgh is not right for him.

I noticed upstate NY but discounted it for not having a large city since the OP wants culture.

I think it's a good tool for the OP to use to narrow down regions of the country.

If he wants a city, it looks like Omaha is the ticket.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:36 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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From what I hear, the Latin Mass community at St. Boniface is thriving and one of the largest in the country. However, I have also been told a number of times that PA is unusually burdensome when it comes to homeschooling. I'm a traditional Catholic and really like Pittsburgh. The "live and let live" attitude is a holdover from when Pittsburgh was a seriously Catholic city and tolerance was natural within that paradigm. Unfortunately the Catholicism there today is lukewarm and in decline, but it still has potential.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:42 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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If he wants a city, it looks like Omaha is the ticket.
Omaha is historically Catholic, but isn't it just as socially liberal as Pittsburgh today?

If one wants a seriously Catholic city, I think your best bet is Lafayette, LA.

But there's another option for the OP: a moderate-to-conservative non-Catholic city with a Latin Mass community. Lincoln, NE is better than Omaha in that regard. There's also Tulsa, OK which has an FSSP parish and a nearby traditionalist Benedictine community.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:56 AM
 
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Omaha is historically Catholic, but isn't it just as socially liberal as Pittsburgh today?
Nope. Omaha usually votes republican. Pittsburgh usually votes democrat.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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FWIW, Obama won Nebraska's 2nd District in 2008:

Nebraska's 2nd congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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FWIW, Obama won Nebraska's 2nd District in 2008:

Nebraska's 2nd congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'm very aware. It was so much against the grain of Omaha that it was referred to as a "surprising victory" for Obama. I doubt it will happen a second time.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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I think Greenfield has what the OP is looking for but I don't know how conservative it is. Greenfield is or was a very Catholic neighborhood back in the day. The neighborhood was predominantly Irish and Italian and it revolved around Saint Rosalia Church and school. I know things have changed but their is an active community center and it's close to Schenely Park and Oakland.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Omaha itself leans Democratic.

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