Phoenix Job Growth (Tucson, Miami: transplants, job market, calculation)

[TedMosby]

I thought this was interesting for the Phoenix folks. I have been monitoring a thread under the City vs. City section titled, "March2018-March 2019 1-Year Growth Rate". I believe this was an actual 2-year calculation putting Phoenix at the highest percentage of job growth in the nation over the past two years.

Originally Posted by jessemh431

I copied and pasted them into ranking by percentage. Phoenix has the biggest job growth by percentage by far. Very impressive!

One thing I'd wanna highlight would be Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Philly, and Pittsburgh being above DC and Boston. So many rankings have that DC and Boston are these awesome job hubs, but it looks like they're slowing down and other former Rust Belt and/or depressed cities are showing stronger growth. Significantly, Baltimore is ahead of DC. I know Baltimore has a long way to go while DC is a powerhouse job center already, and these rankings include Baltimore suburbs that are more and more aligned with DC, but I think it's something to just note and ponder over.

So many postings and articles also want to claim Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago, St. Louis, Buffalo, Rochester, etc. are failed cities with no hope, but even small job growth is better than negative jobs.

+132,000 Phoenix +6.50%

+57,500 Nashville +5.93%
+56,800 Sacramento +5.93%
+58,200 Austin +5.67%
+69,700 Orlando +5.61%
+192,700 Dallas +5.41%
+75,800 Riverside +5.26%
+49,600 Las Vegas +5.09%
+100,200 Seattle +5.07%

+56,200 Charlotte +4.81%
+32,600 Jacksonville +4.77%
+110,500 San Francisco +4.66%
+27,000 Raleigh +4.44%
+58,400 Tampa +4.42%
+119,200 Atlanta +4.41%
+48,100 San Jose +4.39%
+31,000 Salt Lake City +4.37%
+62,600 Denver +4.34%
+122,200 Houston +4.06%

+56,600 San Diego +3.93%
+45,200 Portland +3.88%
+38,900 San Antonio +3.76%
+95,200 Miami +3.61%
+18,800 Grand Rapids +3.42%
+21,200 Oklahoma City +3.36%
+16,100 Birmingham +3.05%

+31,600 Cincinnati +2.92%
+172,600 Los Angeles +2.86%
+271,600 New York +2.83%
+39,100 Baltimore +2.83%
+30,300 Columbus +2.83%
+28,700 Indianapolis +2.74%
+70,900 Philadelphia +2.46%
+24,600 Cleveland +2.36%
+43,200 Detroit +2.18%
+25,300 Pittsburgh +2.18%
+14,200 Louisville +2.16%
+7,800 Tucson +2.05%

+21,400 Kansas City +1.99%
+64,400 Washington DC +1.98%
+53,300 Boston +1.97%
+12,500 Memphis +1.96%
+83,500 Chicago +1.91%
+13,400 Virginia Beach +1.73%
+11,100 Richmond +1.66%
+8,100 Rochester +1.53%
+19,400 St Louis +1.41%
+7,300 New Orleans +1.27%
+6,000 Providence +1.04%

+8,500 Milwaukee +0.99%
+16,500 Minneapolis +0.84%
+4,900 Buffalo +0.88%
+4,700 Hartford +0.81%

[phx1205]

Actually not too surprising since we are also #1 in population growth. https://azgovernor.gov/governor/news...ulation-growth

[ozzeran]

Yeah this place will be a mini-California soon enough (traffic related)

[veritased]

Originally Posted by ozzeran

Yeah this place will be a mini-California soon enough (traffic related)

Please, no thanks. On everything California.

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by veritased

Please, no thanks. On everything California.

Too late...the writing is on the wall...if any of the "political" posts on this forum are representative of the current climate. Maybe with Colorado de-criminalizing 'shrooms the leftys will move there for the time being...but I wouldn't count on it. Once we legalize marijuana, there will be a flood.

[ShampooBanana]

Originally Posted by phx1205

Actually not too surprising since we are also #1 in population growth. https://azgovernor.gov/governor/news...ulation-growth

That ranking list is based on percentage. Phoenix not only has a very high absolute numerical job growth, but highest percentage, as well. That's crazy considering Nashville, Austin, and Dallas seem to be getting all the press these days about having super strong job markets. I'm actually wondering why I didn't see Boise on there, but I suppose it didn't meet the population threshold.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by KurtAZ

Too late...the writing is on the wall...if any of the "political" posts on this forum are representative of the current climate. Maybe with Colorado de-criminalizing 'shrooms the leftys will move there for the time being...but I wouldn't count on it. Once we legalize marijuana, there will be a flood.

Fear-mongering at its finest. No one is relocating so they can get high.

[kytoaz]

Every topic on this forum turns into libs comin from californy. This post was about job growth not politics. I find the growth here to be both good and bad. I would agree that there are enough people here already regardless of where they are from, but it's great news if you own property as job growth and property values go hand in hand.

[gliu953]

This is impressive.
I'm glad I moved here.

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Fear-mongering at its finest. No one is relocating so they can get high.

Think so? From what we have seen, retirees or "people that can't make it in CA" are among the Californians moving to AZ. I would imagine (as there really isn't any way to quantify the number) that a certain demographic led to the influx of transplants in Colorado. Certainly not ALL of the people that moved to CO, but enough, when they were one of the few states that allowed recreational marijuana use. Other states followed suit, including CA, in legalizing recreational use...that gave people that want to use pot other options. Since only Medical marijuana is legal in AZ (so far) it can be argued that marijuana goes on the "Con" list when a person that imbibes is looking to relocate. All indicators are pointing to AZ legalizing recreational use during the next election cycle, which would move Arizona onto the possibilities list for a marijuana user.

I am not saying that they couldn't get pot by some other means in AZ, we all know it is prevalent and not that hard to come by if you want it. I am not saying we shouldn't legalize it, just that removing that "Con" from the list, for some, may lead to an increase of relocation numbers that may have been considering one of the other "pot friendly" states as our other benefits out-weigh the positives in say Nevada. Maybe not a "flood"...probably being over-dramatic there...but there will be an uptick.

Now that Denver has decriminalized psychedelic mushrooms, that opens that city for a different demographic...maybe with some overlap.

I wouldn't say "No one is relocating so they can get high", I have at least one cousin in law that moved to CA from FL for EXACTLY that reason. I don't think he would be the only one. Maybe...he is kind of weird...but I doubt it.

Not sure what this means for our employment numbers, employers can still drug test and still not hire or fire a drug user. It would be interesting to see what a new marijuana industry in AZ would do to our water usage (is pot a high water usage crop?) and if grow conditions opens up any possibilities for the plant quality?