Is Philadelphia a Rust Belt City? (Pittsburgh, Erie: 2015, university, living)

[snj90]

Yeah, to some extent, especially if you expand it to include other parts of the Philadelphia area ... e.g., Marcus Hook, PA

[Krisps]

No, Philly has a park with grass & trees where there are people doin stuff... that stuff don't exist in no rust-belt city!

[Drewcifer]

Philly (and New York) used to be part of the rust belt but recovered long enough ago that posters under the age of 35 or 40 have no memory of that era.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by snj90

Yeah, to some extent, especially if you expand it to include other parts of the Philadelphia area ... e.g., Marcus Hook, PA

Marcus Hook is doing quite well for what it is ( blue collar industrial area). Marcus Hook used to be a main refinery for Sunoco till Sunoco ceased operations at that location a few years back. However they turned the infrastructure into Delta Airlines fuel processing hub and they are now going to be the endpoint for processing and shipping for the $3 B Mariner 2 Pipeline (Marcellus Shale). Location prevents Philadelphia area from ever becoming Rust Belt. If Sunoco shut down in a smaller midwestern city it would spell doom but on the 95 corridor and Port of Delaware they just replace it with another option.

Philadlephia is not a rust belt city. The surrounding suburban counties are very wealthy despite a few post industrial areas. And the city itself has too much going on for it to be labeled Rust Belt. In fact its arguably has a top 3 downtown in the USA .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct73XWjXEAAcL7W.jpg

[Blackbeauty212]

Philadelphia in the 60's, 70's, 80's was very much a Heavy Industrial Rust Belt City. Philly Boosters trying to look to only current day Philadelphia somehow negating the past, is laughable.

Philadelphia in the 80's had SKY HIGH unemployment, blight and significant population loss. The only reason that Philadelphia and Baltimore escape the meme of "Rust Belt" is because they're in the Bos-Wash Corridor, and Rust Belt is a pejorative used by Coastal Elitist to place on Northeastern (non-BosWash) and Northern Midwestern Cities as being "Backwater Hicktowns".

Philadelphia like Pittsburgh, like Baltimore, like Buffalo are FORMER NORTHEASTERN RUST BELT CITIES. No amount of Philly boostering is going to change that.

If Rust-Belt can no-longer be applied to Philly, it can no longer be applied to Pittsburgh. Both cities pretty much went through the same economic downward spiral in the same period of time during deindustrialization of the 70's and 80's. Pittsburgh more so than Philly, because Pittsburgh sole economy was steel, and it wasn't in Megalopolis of BosWash, in which other prosperous cities around it could keep it from falling but so far.

[nei]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

Philadelphia in the 60's, 70's, 80's was very much a Heavy Industrial Rust Belt City. Philly Boosters trying to look to only current day Philadelphia somehow negating the past, is laughable.

Philadelphia in the 80's had SKY HIGH unemployment, blight and significant population loss.

Wasn't that true of New York City as well?

If Rust-Belt can no-longer be applied to Philly, it can no longer be applied to Pittsburgh. Both cities pretty much went through the same economic downward spiral in the same period of time during deindustrialization of the 70's and 80's. Pittsburgh more so than Philly, because Pittsburgh sole economy was steel, and it wasn't in Megalopolis of BosWash, in which other prosperous cities around it could keep it from falling but so far.

Pittsburgh both citywide and metro-wide has had a much steeper population loss

[jjv007]

Originally Posted by rainrock

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct73XWjXEAAcL7W.jpg

This pic is unreal ^^

[jjv007]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Technically it's not but it is a recovered post-industrial city in the same vein as Chicago (which actually is in the Rustbelt).

I think recovering post-industrial is actually a great designation for Philly's general status.

[_Buster]

Most of PA is rust belt, and some of NJ, and Baltimore. I'd say Philly used to be but not anymore, although it definitely still has many areas that look like it.

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by nei

Wasn't that true of New York City as well?



Pittsburgh both citywide and metro-wide has had a much steeper population loss

Pittsburgh had much steeper population loss than many cities that are "Rust Belt", Pittsburgh was a one industry town, not attached to BosWas corridor, so it fell hard as Rock.

This doesn't not dismiss the fact that Philadelphia was a Rust Belt City, it had relied heavily on industry for its economy, suffered decades of significant population loss, and still has the heavy scars (Urban Blight) throughout its northern and eastern neighborhoods.

NYC was never a very heavily industrialized city like the aforementioned. NJ cities was and are, but NOT NYC.

Originally Posted by rainrock

Correct n both points . For the record the poster you responded to has serious psychological issues and a nasty inferiority complex regarding Philadelphia seeing how she is from the little city in the state, Pittsburgh.

We've pleaded for her to get some help apparently to no avail.

Gee a Hard Core Philly Booster, can't debate the merits of the argument so he goes on the personal attacks. Philly Boosters are Queens of Inferiority complexes. They can't stand when someone points out a "unpopular" truth about Philadelphia.

Originally Posted by rainrock

Marcus Hook is doing quite well for what it is ( blue collar industrial area). Marcus Hook used to be a main refinery for Sunoco till Sunoco ceased operations at that location a few years back. However they turned the infrastructure into Delta Airlines fuel processing hub and they are now going to be the endpoint for processing and shipping for the $3 B Mariner 2 Pipeline (Marcellus Shale). Location prevents Philadelphia area from ever becoming Rust Belt. If Sunoco shut down in a smaller midwestern city it would spell doom but on the 95 corridor and Port of Delaware they just replace it with another option.

Philadlephia is not a rust belt city. The surrounding suburban counties are very wealthy despite a few post industrial areas. And the city itself has too much going on for it to be labeled Rust Belt. In fact its arguably has a top 3 downtown in the USA .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct73XWjXEAAcL7W.jpg

Are you seriously going to validate your argument with a picture. LOL. Philadelphia was a Rust Belt. Again if Philadelphia is not a former Rust Belt, then no city was a Rust Belt.

Originally Posted by _Buster

Most of PA is rust belt, and some of NJ, and Baltimore. I'd say Philly used to be but not anymore, although it definitely still has many areas that look like it.

Even I said it was a Rust Belt ... In the current day, No its Not... Philly Booster missed that part though.