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Old 08-28-2013, 07:39 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Science Center apartment project, a little taller, now good to go | Philadelphia Real Estate Blog

New U City apartment tower ready to go.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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It to me is still is another missed opportunity of a one seat ride, wish the gauge was the same. Also to MSE's post I agree there is an opportunity to link other areas. A future spur along 202 and 422 would be good, especiially if coupled with smart TOD growth.
The city/region can benefit from strangths and msart development in both the burbs and the city. The sum of the whole can be greater than the parts. DC can evidence well as a pretty close neighbor
I asked about this before the el reconstruction started and a dual gauge had been briefly discussed at high levels but apparently there were other problems like traction and platform heights so the idea was quickly discarded.

IMO, the whole thing should have been double-tracked in a tunnel under Market St. with the NHSL running express between 69th St. and 2nd St (69th. 50th, 40th, 30th, 20th, etc). and the 101 and 102 trolleys doing the local stops - kind of like BART/Muni under Market St. in SF but with cross-platform transfers.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: The City
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I asked about this before the el reconstruction started and a dual gauge had been briefly discussed at high levels but apparently there were other problems like traction and platform heights so the idea was quickly discarded.

IMO, the whole thing should have been double-tracked in a tunnel under Market St. with the NHSL running express between 69th St. and 2nd St (69th. 50th, 40th, 30th, 20th, etc). and the 101 and 102 trolleys doing the local stops - kind of like BART/Muni under Market St. in SF but with cross-platform transfers.
That would have been much better IMHO
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: The City
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Additional information and what looks like it could be the final design (note the offset) - Image curtesy )well poached) of summers





Work on Market Street high-rise to start this fall
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I love that UCity is getting more height. Sorry I haven't been contributing much to this forum, I've been so unbelievably busy with work and such that I just haven't had time. Looks like KidPhilly is on top of things. Thanks! Keep up the good work
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: The City
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Renderings surface for Kimmel Center renovation | Philadelphia Real Estate Blog
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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It's a bit tough for me to reconcile this article's text about future charming streetscapes with the image of the building with the curb cut + street level garage.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Thanks for finding this. I asked if anyone had any renderings a few weeks back. It looks great and it will certainly enliven the 1500 block of Spruce - now a brick wall.

As for this . . .
. . . I say hogwash. First, the author indicates the type of construction under debate looks cheap because it is. If it looks cheap now, it will only look increasingly cheaper 10, 20 and 30 years hence. As for the argument that bland construction provides a context that will allow future (and better designed) construction to play off of, give me a break. As a developer, why would I want to locate something beautiful and more expensive next to something ugly? It takes just as much effort to design a beautiful building as it does an ugly one. Good design today will sustain itself and spur good design in the future.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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It's a bit tough for me to reconcile this article's text about future charming streetscapes with the image of the building with the curb cut + street level garage.
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As for this . . .

. . . I say hogwash. First, the author indicates the type of construction under debate looks cheap because it is. If it looks cheap now, it will only look increasingly cheaper 10, 20 and 30 years hence. As for the argument that bland construction provides a context that will allow future (and better designed) construction to play off of, give me a break. As a developer, why would I want to locate something beautiful and more expensive next to something ugly? It takes just as much effort to design a beautiful building as it does an ugly one. Good design today will sustain itself and spur good design in the future.
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The photo I chose to accompany my essay probably wasn't the best one to run with it, because that building is cheap, looks it, and has a bunch of architectural problems that will keep it from aging well, like that all-out-of-proportion mock-classical cornice on what's otherwise a strictly Modernist knockoff box.

But I still maintain that some of the buildings that make up today's "background" - the night sky against which the stars shine - were probably of similar quality and character when built. The difference may well be that the builders did understand things like proportion and context when they built them, things that clearly escaped the grasp of the builder of the house in the photo. I've seen other Modernist boxes equipped with metal or stucco tumors that don't look all that bad considering, and those may well recede into tomorrow's background. You might also want to read the full blog post I linked to for a better elaboration of this argument.
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