News, Kids with Nazi Names Now in State Custody (method, children, married)
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there needs to be lots more Info.
But I do hope they took them kids for more reason then because of their Names.
Also, I think the bakery did wrong. Its a NAME and thats all it is, wether its both Names or not. Its NAMES.
Look at some of the Names of the rich and famous !
The issue is that the child's full name is Adolf Hitler Campbell, Adolf is his first name and Hitler is his middle name. I think it's clear that by demanding the bakery put "Adolf Hitler" on the birthday cake, they were trying to make some political or free speech point. For instance, most people don't put Jessica Elizabeth on their cakes if Elizabeth is their middle name. They did what they did to provoke a reaction and they succeeded. As for the name issue and CPS, CPS issued a statement saying that they would never take kids just because of their names so there was obviously an underlying issue although I wish they'd tell people so we can let it rest instead of saying it was just because of the names or not.
In the FIRST ARTICLE that came out about the bakery refusing to do the cake the mother CALLED IN THE ORDER. The bakery thought it was a JOKE! Who wouldn't. She wasn't there IN PERSON face to face with them. They politely refused and said no. If YOU were a bakery owner and someone called in to order a cake and said they wanted "Grand Klansman Jim Bob Billy Ray" on it........ would you simply say, "okay" and go ahead and MAKE IT!?!?! I dare hope not. Not that it is just wrong to put that all on a cake but for the fact it is most likely a JOKE! The bakery had no prior history with this family and had no clue that it was a REAL PERSON and that was their REAL NAME (which in and of itself is just HORRIBLE for the parents to do that to this child). If you DID say okay and went ahead and made such a cake I do hope that you got payment upfront so that you were covered in case it was a joke. If you didn't and it really was a joke....... you just lost money. I can totally side w/ the bakery on this one.
As for the parents......... the article says the sheriff stated that the dad has QUESTIONABLE associates he hangs around. They even said that CPS has investigated this family before and they are not new to the system. If the p.d. KNOW who this dad is hanging around then there is a legit reason they came in and took the kids besides just their names.
I am guessing there is far more involved in why they took the kids than just the name for the mere factor that they will have to justify their removing the children from the home and the names alone may or may not be proven to be a just cause.
Having said that, I can see how many people would feel that the state would have no right to interefere and remove a child from their parents because of the name the parents choose to give the child. This is and can be a very slippery slope in as much as how much power and authority is given to the state to interfere in the private lives of families.
Having said that, I can also see how the names given to a child, particularly the ones in discussion here, could be viewed as being abusive to the child and endangering their well being. The point is that names such as Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation will no doubt subject these kids to redicule, torment and possibly even physical harm. Now many would say that the ones inflicting such things upon these children would be the ones to blame really and the ones that are in the wrong. And while I do agree with this as I am one that does not condone ridiculing another being or anything like that, the point is that we all know it is going to happen nonetheless.
Therefore this is where it can be seen that the parents are endangering the welfare of their children and subjecting them to mental abuse and anguish.
Think about it this way... in this case the parents choose to name their children after a man that committed some of the worse crimes in history against humankind. Gave their children names that would beyond any shadow of a doubt be offensive to many people and stir up all sorts of emotions in them. But we can say that the parents have the right to name their children whatever they want to name them, despite the embaressment, humiliation, taunting, abuse that it can subject their children too and not be seen as abusive in some form or nature.
Well, could the same then be said for parents that choose to dress their little boys in girls dresses and send them off to school, knowing that they will be embaressed, humiliated, taunted and subjected to ridicule and possibly even physical abuse. Would the parents not have the right to dress their little boy however they want without state interference.
Or say the parents of a little girl determine to shave all her hair off, head, eyebrows, everything and send their daughter off to school that way, subjecting her to all the ridicule, humiliation, taunting and embaressment that could possibly cause her. Would the parents not have the right to do with their daughter what they wish to in this aspect.
And if in both of those situations, one would think that it is in a sense abusive to the mental well being of the child and possibly endangering them and their physical well being, then why would the names choosen for their children, which would bring about the same or similar reprecussions, not be viewed under the same microscope of abuse.
As I said, I'm on the fence with this because it is a very slippery slope, but I do see both sides of it and how it can very well be viewed as mental abuse and endangerment of a childs well being.
I agree, naming your kids after a man and a group that caused the single greatest amount of human suffering in a period of time is just beyond evil. And I'm sure those parents were instilling racist, anti-semetic rhetoric into their children everyday. To me, that's the same as teaching a child that all Christians should be stoned or all gays should be hanged. It's just evil and wrong.
I'm thinking though, that there might be more to the story than the racism aspect. Maybe they decided to check out the house after the birthday cake incident and found foul conditions. From the pictures, the dad looks like a total meth head. He has that sunken face that meth heads tend to get. Maybe the kids were taken out of the home because of drugs. Either way, let's hope the kids find a normal home and get their names changed soon.
Wow liberal alert. I am sure you are perfect right? I mean since you think you have the right to demean those parents for naming there kids what the wanted. Only thing evil here is everyone's ignorance.
Wow liberal alert. I am sure you are perfect right? I mean since you think you have the right to demean those parents for naming there kids what the wanted. Only thing evil here is everyone's ignorance.
Yeah, I'm "perfect" in that I won't name my children after an evil fascist dictator who caused more pain and human suffering than almost any other person. Posts like these make me think you're definitely a member of the Aryan Nation, comrade.
ROFL! First off Hitler was not a fascist but a national socialist learn the difference mussoulini was a fascist. 2nd. He was only evil to you i see him differently. More pain and suffering, no i would say stalin takes the cake there but anyways. I am not a member of Aryan Nations i do not join groups, and also i would not name my kids that either but they have every right in the world to do so and that right should be defended.
so why were the children removed from the parents home?
if the only reason they were removed because of their names, then what the state did was not only wrong but communist as well.
just because parents named their children after a mass murderer does not give reason for the state to remove children from their home and parents.
or did being a racist or not politically correct become illegal in the last 2 days while I was at work?
if the state removed them from for CAUSE such as being abused or some other reason, but not related with their names, then i can understand it, but if their names is the only reason they can come up with, then the social workers involved should all be fired, and the state give reparations to the family.
ROFL! First off Hitler was not a fascist but a national socialist learn the difference mussoulini was a fascist. 2nd. He was only evil to you i see him differently. More pain and suffering, no i would say stalin takes the cake there but anyways. I am not a member of Aryan Nations i do not join groups, and also i would not name my kids that either but they have every right in the world to do so and that right should be defended.
No, he was not just evil to me but to millions, if not billions, of people who know of the things he did. The fact that you don't believe Hitler was evil speaks volumes about you. Whether you're a part of the Aryan Brotherhood or not, it seems like you support their goals of racial purity.
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