Why has Butler County always been seen as a Republican stronghold considering how urbanised and diverse it is? (Cleveland: how much, college)

[rrampage]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

Rrampage claimed Butler County, OH under-represented the national average in terms of demographics. I showed how they were actually very much on par with the rest of the country in most fields, besides race, though only by a small margin.

No, you didn't show it.

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

Rrampage claimed Butler County, OH under-represented the national average in terms of demographics. I showed how they were actually very much on par with the rest of the country in most fields, besides race, though only by a small margin.

What does "most fields besides race" mean?

[Doughboy1918]

Originally Posted by Jbraybarten653

What does "most fields besides race" mean?

Originally Posted by rrampage

No, you didn't show it.

The racial demographics are a little below average, but everything else (poverty, median income, commute time, people with a bachelor’s degree, etc.) shown for Butler County, OH is very close to the national average. I’ll send it again.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...o,US/PST045222

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

The racial demographics are a little below average, but everything else (poverty, median income, commute time, people with a bachelor’s degree, etc.) shown for Butler County, OH is very close to the national average. I’ll send it again.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...o,US/PST045222

A little lower and a more conservative area... the white population is going vote R at a higher rate than other areas. It likely will take a larger amount of diversity to move the needle.


Many other parts of the country were like this in recent past decades. Orange County CA was a well known GOP stronghold until like the 90s.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by Jbraybarten653

the white population is going vote R at a higher rate than other areas. It likely will take a larger amount of diversity to move the needle.

It may be a bit on the presumptous side assuming that white = republican.There are a lot of white democrats as well, though that may not be the case in Butler county. It may be more of a lifestyle preference: I.E. white country people may tend to vote republican based on talking points from politicians that match said voter's values. Where the opposite may be more common for urban areas, where you tend to have more white democrats based on values/preferences.

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

It may be a bit on the presumptous side assuming that white = republican.There are a lot of white democrats as well, though that may not be the case in Butler county. It may be more of a lifestyle preference: I.E. white country people may tend to vote republican based on talking points from politicians that match said voter's values. Where the opposite may be more common for urban areas, where you tend to have more white democrats based on values/preferences.

No, it's statistics and we're not talking about an urban area.

[midwest1]

Originally Posted by Jbraybarten653

No, it's statistics and we're not talking about an urban area.

Butler County has nearly 400,000 people over a quarter of which reside in the legacy River cities of Middletown and Hamilton. It is very much an urban area. As I mentioned the Census considered it it's own metropolitan area until 1990.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by midwest1

Butler County has nearly 400,000 people over a quarter of which reside in the legacy River cities of Middletown and Hamilton. It is very much an urban area. As I mentioned the Census considered it it's own metropolitan area until 1990.

I was assuming that some folks may not be familiar with these urban areas in a boots on the ground fashion and have their view through stats. Its one way to look at things, though not all encompassing. Stats don't necessarily tanslate into reality. I.E. -- I was literally shocked to find an authentic Dominican restaraunt in little ole Hamilton Ohio because I never wouldve thought there is a Dominican community in Hamilton to support said establishment. Most meat and potato eating native, caucasian Ohioans would have no idea what Chicharron De Pollo is nor Ropa Vieja even though they would likely eat crispy fried chicken and shredded beef. But the stats don't show a Dominican community. So the stats dont paint a complet picture. Just a small case in point.

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by midwest1

Butler County has nearly 400,000 people over a quarter of which reside in the legacy River cities of Middletown and Hamilton. It is very much an urban area. As I mentioned the Census considered it it's own metropolitan area until 1990.

That 400K is mostly sprawl because of Cincinnati. The legacy towns in the county would not grow to anywhere near that population. In fact, the county would likely look like other rust belt counties if it were on its own.

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

I was assuming that some folks may not be familiar with these urban areas in a boots on the ground fashion and have their view through stats. Its one way to look at things, though not all encompassing. Stats don't necessarily tanslate into reality. I.E. -- I was literally shocked to find an authentic Dominican restaraunt in little ole Hamilton Ohio because I never wouldve thought there is a Dominican community in Hamilton to support said establishment. Most meat and potato eating native, caucasian Ohioans would have no idea what Chicharron De Pollo is nor Ropa Vieja even though they would likely eat crispy fried chicken and shredded beef. But the stats don't show a Dominican community. So the stats dont paint a complet picture. Just a small case in point.

That's because of the sprawl from Cincinnati. On its own, the area would not have attracted immigrants. It would be great and if so, would be a model for other struggling Ohio cities outside of the sphere of a large metro though.