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Old 03-03-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Blue Ash, Ohio (Cincinnati)
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Not shrinking, but not really growing either. This seems like a northern/midwest problem. Anyways, my estimates for the 3 C's:

Cleveland:
city- 420,500
metro- 2,050,000

Columbus
city- 740,000
metro- 1,800,100

Cincinnati
city-345,000
metro- 2,200,250
My home state of Pennsylvania is doing wonders as far as population growth. PA is a real role model for Ohio.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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Not shrinking, but not really growing either. This seems like a northern/midwest problem. Anyways, my estimates for the 3 C's:

Cleveland:
city- 420,500
metro- 2,050,000

Columbus
city- 740,000
metro- 1,800,100

Cincinnati
city-345,000
metro- 2,200,250
Very interesting numbers. You have Cleveland and Cincy gaining vs estimates, but Columbus coming in well below. Not sure I see that happening. I could see maybe all 3 coming in below, but Columbus would probably be the least likely one for that to happen.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Very interesting numbers. You have Cleveland and Cincy gaining vs estimates, but Columbus coming in well below. Not sure I see that happening. I could see maybe all 3 coming in below, but Columbus would probably be the least likely one for that to happen.
They may be higher/lower than the 2009 estimates, but based on the last census (2000), Cincy and Columbus would have grown, while Cleveland has shrunk. I'm iffy about estimates though. Cincy aggressively stated that they had 380,000 residents living in the city in '09. They administered their own census, but I don't really think 50,000 people moved into the city limits. That being said, If you include Norwood, Elmwood and St. Bernard (which are in the city limits, but still their own municiples) Cincy would have around 400,000 people.

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Old 03-05-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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Interesting for sure. You definitely have Cleveland proper doing much better than I had, but the overall MSA doing much worse.

Cincinnati and Columbus I am the least confident about. Cincinnati because estimates have held it between 330,000-335,000 for the last decade. I just don't think the population was that stable. Either they lost more or they gained more, and given the development there, I would think it gained.

Columbus makes me the most nervous. It's been the bright spot in the state, but as you said, some of that growth is just coming from other areas of the state. Ohio overall gained less than 200K people, and if I had to guess, I would think most of that went to Columbus and Cincy MSAs, with a smaller amount to NEOH, Toledo, etc.

Just relooked at my Cleveland MSA prediction and realized it didn't make much sense.....I also think that the estimates have been too hard on Cleveland MSA as well as city proper. Let's say 2,100,000 and give the Cleve a much needed optimistic prediction.
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