06-04-2009, 08:25 AM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Keep in mind that the trail is an abandoned railway. It runs through suburban back yards, but also through commercial/industrial areas. And the at-grade crossings in Reston, Herndon, and Vienna can be dangerous. If you want more "scenic," head out in the other direction.
Thanks for the tip!
On the next sunny day (if we ever get one, judging by the forecast), I'm going to drive on out to NW Loudoun County and park at the trailhead to get some TRUE scenic beauty to run amidst.
06-04-2009, 08:36 AM
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claremarie
Keep in mind that the trail is an abandoned railway. It runs through suburban back yards, but also through commercial/industrial areas. And the at-grade crossings in Reston, Herndon, and Vienna can be dangerous. If you want more "scenic," head out in the other direction.
Depends on what you mean by dangerous - a runner or biker would definitely need to exercise more caution looking out for cars at the crossings in Reston, Herndon and Vienna; on the other hand, he or she might need to exercise more caution for assailants once on the more isolated stretches in Loudoun. I've never had a problem on the W&OD, though, and still think it's great.
06-04-2009, 08:45 AM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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JEB77
Depends on what you mean by dangerous - a runner or biker would definitely need to exercise more caution looking out for cars at the crossings in Reston, Herndon and Vienna; on the other hand, he or she might need to exercise more caution for assailants once on the more isolated stretches in Loudoun. I've never had a problem on the W&OD, though, and still think it's great.
I'm more worried about some of the CYCLISTS than getting mugged! While running yesterday I kept as far on the right-hand berm as I could out of respect to others on the trail, and since I'm a very slim person cyclists should have had no problems getting around me, right? WRONG! While a few were nice enough when speeding up behind me to say "On your left!!!" before they passed, there were others whom I couldn't even hear approaching from behind me due to the heavy traffic noise on this stretch and caused me to nearly jump out of shoes as they sped by from behind me so close that they nearly collided with me.
I mean, the trail isn't very wide, but it's most certainly wide ENOUGH so that pedestrians barely on the shoulder of the trail shouldn't feel like they have to play a game of "chicken" with cyclists. I know some professional cyclists in their little "circles" are irked that people run on their "turf," but there are signs posted telling runners, cyclists, and horseback riders alike to SHARE the trail!
I have an inkling some of those cyclists were intentionally trying to "intimidate" me off the trail by passing by so close, but tough cookies! There are TOO FEW safe places to run in NoVA the way it is, so I'm standing my ground!
Granted though, in defense of the cyclists, there are too many inconsiderate pedestrians on there as well though. While running yesterday I was coming up behind three people who looked like they were on their lunch hour from a nearby workplace, and they were walking SIDE-BY-SIDE! I had to pull left to go around them, and if one of those "silent cyclists" was speeding up behind us there would have been a nasty collision. What's so tough about being smart enough to walk single-file when the trail is busy?
06-04-2009, 08:48 AM
Location: Town of Herndon/DC Metro
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Coming from a part of the country (or at least a city) where one wouldn't see that (i.e., payday loan-type places would be separated from the cutesy central business district by at least a street or two), I'm a little concerned.. I take it the City of Falls Church is ok with this sort of situation?
I know, Its weird to me too. But its totally acceptable here-you'll find lots of less desirable businesses next to nicer ones, in good neighborhoods. I've been here 9 mos and its still stands out to me.
06-04-2009, 11:16 AM
Location: South South Jersey
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ScranBarre - yikes, that's really disheartening (and reminds me of my own experiences trying to enjoy the great outdoors around here). I think my source (a guy who wrote about his daily ride going west on the trail out of Vienna and gushed about how pretty it was) must not have made it all the way to Reston. In any case, I'm going to take my bike up to both Falls Church and Vienna and ride out of each town in each direction and see what I think. I think I'll do it early on a weekday afternoon, too - weekends and rush hours on the W&OD sound like a death trap.
06-04-2009, 11:20 AM
Location: South South Jersey
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I know, Its weird to me too. But its totally acceptable here-you'll find lots of less desirable businesses next to nicer ones, in good neighborhoods. I've been here 9 mos and its still stands out to me.
This is really, really interesting to me. If anyone has any personal knowledge of what's up with typical D.C.-area zoning regulations (or lack thereof), please chime in. (I'm a social scientist, albeit in another universe from urban planning.)
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06-04-2009, 02:57 PM
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Thanks for the tip!
On the next sunny day (if we ever get one, judging by the forecast), I'm going to drive on out to NW Loudoun County and park at the trailhead to get some TRUE scenic beauty to run amidst.
If you're going to go to the effort of driving to a trailhead, you can find more scenic places to run. W&OD is nice, but it's really for bikes, IMO. If you want a scenic place to run, I'm a huge fan of the Heritage trail. Go to Riverbend Park and run along the river and up and down the rocks. Also, the various trails in Seneca Park are fun. Difficult Run and Scotts Run both have waterfall trails (not spectacular waterfalls, don't expect to find Niagara Falls or anything. But still quite pretty).
06-04-2009, 03:05 PM
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We spent countless hours cycling on the W&OD trail during our years in DC, and found that each year it got more crowded and scary. Too many people using the trail in different ways (Lance Armstrong wannabes, 6 year olds who just took off the training wheels, in-line skaters, runners listening to music, and clueless moms pushing strollers while walking dogs and talking on the cellphone, and the three-abreast office walkers) made for too many close calls.
09-13-2009, 02:19 PM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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If you're going to go to the effort of driving to a trailhead, you can find more scenic places to run. W&OD is nice, but it's really for bikes, IMO. If you want a scenic place to run, I'm a huge fan of the Heritage trail. Go to Riverbend Park and run along the river and up and down the rocks. Also, the various trails in Seneca Park are fun. Difficult Run
I just wanted to thank Normie for this suggestion. I hiked Difficult Run today, and my "reward" was being treated to a beautiful panoramic vista of the Potomac at the very end of the trail!
09-14-2009, 03:07 PM
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People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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On the next sunny day (if we ever get one, judging by the forecast), I'm going to drive on out to NW Loudoun County and park at the trailhead to get some TRUE scenic beauty to run amidst. 
I mean, the trail isn't very wide, but it's most certainly wide ENOUGH so that pedestrians barely on the shoulder of the trail shouldn't feel like they have to play a game of "chicken" with cyclists. I know some professional cyclists in their little "circles" are irked that people run on their "turf," but there are signs posted telling runners, cyclists, and horseback riders alike to SHARE the trail! 
