Fairfax County Residents Paying for Luxury Items for Low-Income Residents

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by pvnova

Not to mention that unemployment in Montana is very low recently, and housing prices are low. Why not to go and earn an honest buck? Because you can always leach off me, with the help of Bulova and Hudgins?

News flash! News flash! Sharon Bulova thinks that telling all low income people in Fairfax county to move to Montana is a bad idea. If you vote for her that won't happen!

Signed,
Brer Rabbit

[saganista]

Originally Posted by pvnova

Exactly. And if what I propose would be done (replacing income tax with oil/resource tax in the US) the same would happen here, and we as a nation would consume half of what we consume now. And get the huge economic boom from income-tax-free environment and technology-and-infrastructure change to accommodate the new tax/cost structure (new energy efficient machinery, houses etc).

Sounds like you've been to the flea market and uncovered a copy of an old draft energy plan from the Jimmy Carter administration. As gas prices rocketed to and then receded from an astonishing $1.25 per gallon back then, there were discussions of simply freezing the pump price at $1.25, then upping it by five cents worth of additional excise tax every year. The non-tax portion of payment would have been allocated according to crude prices, weighted sales volumes, and similar related measures. Would have resulted in incentives for higher mpg vehicles. predictable fuel costs for business and industry, and a growing pool of tax revenues to be used to fund all sorts of energy-saving R&D, including alternative fuels. But that idea and a lot of others went by the boards when Reagan came along. Morning in America, Real Men Don't Eat Quiche, yada, yada, yada...

[saganista]

Originally Posted by pvnova

It means the same everywhere. The piece of roof large enough to cover your body at night. The rest is luxury.

Luxury Living, PV-Style...

[saganista]

Originally Posted by pvnova

OK, you read "car mix" as "mix of gasoline" and now complain? Own to your mistakes, man. Everybody make them, it's not a problem, I don't blame you for that, I am just clarifying. But blaming ME for your own misunderstanding is just poor.

When you're talking about fuel and then use the undefined because it's non-existent term "car mix" because you can't think of the defined because it does exist term "fleet composition", there isn't anyone even eligible for blame but yourself.

[pvnova]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

lets have somebody with a kid say, share that cozy 400 Sq foot house with a couple of roommates.

Cannot afford kids? Great solution: don't have them.

Besides, a person with a kid could certainly afford something more than $153/month (welfare is increased for families with kids).
Besides, I grew up in a ~400 sq ft apartment with my sister, both parents and my grandmother. Did not die, in fact learned a lot (including what kind of people don't want to work at all, by get by as well as many hard-working people at a government's expense). My sister raised two wonderful kids in ~320 sq ft apartment. Not that it is somehow terrible, but that was hard already as the kids are of different sex.
What, did you think I am FROM some rich suburb?
In this country, if you are healthy and not totally stupid, you work hard, you get where you want to be (well, above $200,000/year you need some luck, and without luck even $200,000 may be TOO hard on your health). No government assistance necessary.

[pvnova]

Originally Posted by saganista

Luxury Living, PV-Style...

See? Even that is livable. The "room in the basement somewhere in WV" I suggested starts to sound better, right?

[pvnova]

Originally Posted by saganista

Sounds like you've been to the flea market and uncovered a copy of an old draft energy plan from the Jimmy Carter administration. As gas prices rocketed to and then receded from an astonishing $1.25 per gallon back then, there were discussions of simply freezing the pump price at $1.25, then upping it by five cents worth of additional excise tax every year. The non-tax portion of payment would have been allocated according to crude prices, weighted sales volumes, and similar related measures. Would have resulted in incentives for higher mpg vehicles. predictable fuel costs for business and industry, and a growing pool of tax revenues to be used to fund all sorts of energy-saving R&D, including alternative fuels.

My plan is better, but that one is reasonable too.

Originally Posted by saganista

But that idea and a lot of others went by the boards when Reagan came along. Morning in America, Real Men Don't Eat Quiche, yada, yada, yada...

Any reason in policy went out of the window when voters started to vote for such clowns as Reagan...

[saganista]

Originally Posted by pvnova

See? Even that is livable. The "room in the basement somewhere in WV" I suggested starts to sound better, right?

No, it still sounds just as dazed and confused as it did the first time. How many police, firefighters, EMT's, teachers, park rangers, animal control wardens, school bus drivers, et cetera, do you expect to fit into that one 400-sqft basement room in WV, anyway?

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by pvnova

I grew up in a ~400 sq ft apartment with my sister, both parents and my grandmother. Did not die, in fact learned a lot

If you are going to bring up your own personal successful upbringing as an argument, the obvious counter will be to question the success of that upbringing based on the character revealed in your posts here. Thats not a path I want to take, and its against the TOU besides.

I would suggest we can all see that folks who think theres no benefit to FFX county in terms of easier hiring, or increased diversity from moderate income housing must conclude that the only rationale for ANY govt encouragement to moderate income housing in the county (even in the form of zoning bonuses) must be about redistribution to the poor AND it clear that those who think that, AND that any destribution to the poor is wrong, will oppose this program. And will oppose the FFX pols who support it. Personally I doubt there are many libertarians who support Ms Bulova anyway. Whether there should or should not be redistribution to the poor in general, or in housing, is a topic for another forum. I would suggest that all the FFX county (or NoVa) material in this is exhausted.