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I suggest that y'all read American Nations by Colin Woodard. He basically split up in to 3 different countries. So basically anything South of Fayetteville and east of Anson County is Deep South, anything east of Forysth County and North of Fayetteville is the Tidewater, and any thing west of Guilford county is called Greater Appalachia.
So where does Charlotte fit in that equation? Probably South Carolina!
The problem with that page is how the I-85 corridor from Atlanta to south of Richmond is basically the same culture.
The article gives a few definitions of the Deep South but the one with the most validity IMO is the one that corresponds to the Cotton Belt (and, not coincidentally, demographic maps depicting African American ancestry)--which is basically the coastal plain region in the lower Southern states where slavery was most prominent. Thus, it doesn't include entire states. The I-85 corridor from Atlanta to Richmond isn't within that region.
The article gives a few definitions of the Deep South but the one with the most validity IMO is the one that corresponds to the Cotton Belt (and, not coincidentally, demographic maps depicting African American ancestry)--which is basically the coastal plain region in the lower Southern states where slavery was most prominent. Thus, it doesn't include entire states. The I-85 corridor from Atlanta to Richmond isn't within that region.
I'm familiar with the historical differences of the two regions but what are the differences today? In my present day travels I don't see that much of a difference at all.
I'm familiar with the historical differences of the two regions but what are the differences today? In my present day travels I don't see that much of a difference at all.
The biggest difference is still demographic. The Deep South has tons of small towns and rural areas that are majority Black or close to it. That's not so much the case in the Upper South.
Another difference is that, outside of Florida (which has a different history of development compared to other Southern states), the cities in the Deep South languished after the Civil War while cities more inland that were less dependent on the "peculiar institution" and were rail hubs (Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, etc) began to supplant them as the dominant cities of the region. Even today they tend to be the more economically dynamic cities of the South.
The biggest difference is still demographic. The Deep South has tons of small towns and rural areas that are majority Black or close to it. That's not so much the case in the Upper South.
Another difference is that, outside of Florida (which has a different history of development compared to other Southern states), the cities in the Deep South languished after the Civil War while cities more inland that were less dependent on the "peculiar institution" and were rail hubs (Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, etc) began to supplant them as the dominant cities of the region. Even today they tend to be the more economically dynamic cities of the South.
I get that the Deep South has a higher percentage of rural blacks but Maryland has a large black population as a whole. Also South Carolina has a new South Region in the form of greenville-spartanburg that is the largest metropolitan area in that state. So just like Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida; South Carolina also has a new South Region that is more dominant than its historical coastal region of Charleston. I get the points that you're trying to make but there are deep south examples of some of these anomalies that you have pointed out.
The biggest difference is still demographic. The Deep South has tons of small towns and rural areas that are majority Black or close to it. That's not so much the case in the Upper South.
Another difference is that, outside of Florida (which has a different history of development compared to other Southern states), the cities in the Deep South languished after the Civil War while cities more inland that were less dependent on the "peculiar institution" and were rail hubs (Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, etc) began to supplant them as the dominant cities of the region. Even today they tend to be the more economically dynamic cities of the South.
I get that the Deep South has a higher percentage of rural blacks but Maryland has a large black population as a whole.
Yes it does; it is unique in that it holds the dual distinction of having been a slave state (it is technically a Southern state) as well as a destination state during the Great Migratio--particularly in the Baltimore and DC areas, which is where most of the state's Black population is concentrated till this day. The state's rural Black population is mostly on the Eastern Shore with one county I believe having a majority/near majority Black population.
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Also South Carolina has a new South Region in the form of greenville-spartanburg that is the largest metropolitan area in that state. So just like Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida; South Carolina also has a new South Region that is more dominant than its historical coastal region of Charleston. I get the points that you're trying to make but there are deep south examples of some of these anomalies that you have pointed out.
Yes, the SC Upstate also lies outside of the Deep South; as I stated earlier, the I-85 corridor (which passes through Greenville-Spartanburg) from Atlanta to Richmond lies outside of the region. Otherwise, there are always exceptions/anomalies with anything and that goes without saying.
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