Reporting a family member for fraud (jealous, compulsive, judgmental, conversation)
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It takes about 2 years and a lawyer to get disability and you always get turned down the first time. You would be wasting your time to have one person reported, and nobody will do anything. Seems like something you may want to let go of because it's stressing you? It's really not your business and he is probably just doing that for attention. Just let it go and let the guy reap his own rewards. Sounds like drama to me. Not meaning to be mean, just saying.
Since you don't really know the facts, I think you should just mind your own business and stay out of it. Why would you start to "wonder" about something that really has nothing to do with you? If he is a relative and you care about him, why not have a private conversation with him if you are so concerned about it? It sounds like your motive for considering ruining his life may be ill intentioned.
On top of it, if he has a VA rating, he would’ve had a VA examination to determine severity of any conditions. Yes, I’m sure there are people that fake pain… but they check range of motion and all that (for musculoskeletal conditions). I think feigning disability would be difficult to do at an exam. Possible, but unlikely.
Though if he retired for medical reasons, he’d be on TDRL. I don’t know specifics regarding how they determine pay amounts, but don’t they go through an MEB and/ or PEB? Is the amount of TDRL retired pay dependent on severity of disability?
The way the OP is written, it sounds like he was not medically retired/discharged and had no service-related injury, but rather put in his 20 and also filed a disability claim for vague symptoms, which would then be determined by the VA board. As far as I know, MEB & PEB only apply if there is a service-related injury and a need to determine if that individual is therefore eligible for DoD disability. The MEB would refer findings to the PEB and they would conduct a discharge evaluation.
The next Vet or Vet to be I meet that hasn't or isn't trying to max out his or her disability before retirement will be the first (context: I spent my 32 3/4 year career working for the Navy - and have met MANY service members along the way during that time).
A very close friend was married to a veteran malingerer. I knew both of them well for years. He suffered some sort of arm injury but essentially retained full use of it (an accident, not combat related). If he received any disability compensation it was minor. Don't recall the details now. After discharge he got a business degree using VA benefits and started managing a local supermarket. He played several sports, enjoyed hunting and fishing. They seemed to have a pleasant life: nice home on a couple of acres, 2 lovely boys, vacations and recreation, the usual toys and updated cars, etc.
Then he apparently got tired of the work life seemed to require. Was less and less "able" to work. More and more hours, then days off sick. Full time became part time absences unexcused. Eventually the company fired him. He appealed, fought, and got a settlement. He started complaining of all sorts of new ailments, concocting claim after claim with the VA, demanding new medications, treatments. He saw counselor after counselor, travelled to see this or that specialist, then firing them when they wouldn't confirm his claims. He'd sit around the house letting others wait on him because suddenly he was disabled. The house, property, and boys were neglected. Eventually all he felt able to do was carve an occasional bone handle for custom knives but that dwindled into one or two a year. He'd bend everyone's ear with complaints and conspiracy theories, travelling and staying with other veterans who were gaming the system. At first he would boast about how this or that approach worked when family friends were present, but fewer and fewer people felt comfortable enough to visit. He was always researching ways to get something for nothing. A couple of concocted property and auto insurance claims were exposed.
My friend was frightened about all this but she stuck by him. Once the bills started piling up she went back to work, first part time, then full time so they wouldn't lose the house. Then they lost the house, filed for bankruptcy. The boys went to live with grandparents. Hubby sat at home watching TV. It was horrible to watch. At first she was too scared to leave, but as her own career moved on and she could keep the boys, finally divorced him. He dragged her through court time and again over alimony, child support, and custody for several years. Unfortunately, because she neglected her own healthcare so long she ended up diagnosed with late stage breast cancer. Don't know what finally happened to him.
Last edited by Parnassia; 10-07-2021 at 02:52 PM..
Never said fraud didn't exist. I just don't think people should try to ruin someone's life due to an apparent personal issue. It's a disgusting way to live.
Various forms of fraud cost people money. Sometimes a great deal of money. That should not be minimized. And fraud can also be a criminal matter.
As a taxpayer I certainly hope this isn’t the case
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Originally Posted by redplum33
Please. I doubt your taxes are even one penny per year higher due to this alleged fraud.
It seems you just want to cause harm to this person for whatever reason.
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Originally Posted by ebbe
Look, fraud exists, in many forms. Courts are well aware of the scams people will perpetrate.
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Originally Posted by redplum33
Never said fraud didn't exist. I just don't think people should try to ruin someone's life due to an apparent personal issue. It's a disgusting way to live.
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Originally Posted by ebbe
Various forms of fraud cost people money. Sometimes a great deal of money. That should not be minimized. And fraud can also be a criminal matter.
Nobody is minimizing fraud. With due respect, your posts in this thread don't seem to be relevant.
The OP has not been harmed in any way whatsoever by his/her relative's alleged fraud.
Please. I doubt your taxes are even one penny per year higher due to this alleged fraud.
It seems you just want to cause harm to this person for whatever reason.
Wow, do the words honesty, integrity and truth mean anything to you. Believe it or not, there is a very clear line between right and wrong in this world. Perpetuating a lie is hardly an admirable thing to do no matter what the lie is all about. The love of money is the root of all evil.
Please. I doubt your taxes are even one penny per year higher due to this alleged fraud.
It seems you just want to cause harm to this person for whatever reason.
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Originally Posted by stank1964
Wow, do the words honesty, integrity and truth mean anything to you. Believe it or not, there is a very clear line between right and wrong in this world. Perpetuating a lie is hardly an admirable thing to do no matter what the lie is all about. The love of money is the root of all evil.
Does the word vindictive mean anything to you? Because that's what this thread is about.
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