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Old 08-07-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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In Sunday's New York Times, there was an article about young people and hipsters expatriating from Brooklyn (particularly Williamsburg) to the more rural Hudson Valley, in communities such as Kingston and Hudson. The article basically made it seem like this rural towns are now thriving centers of art and culture for young people.

For those who live there or are familiar with the area, can you comment on this and say if what is said is true or not? I've never been, but the story made it all seem very appealing, as I always like those types of communities.

Here is the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/ny...oklynites.html
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Glen Rock, NJ
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In Sunday's New York Times, there was an article about young people and hipsters expatriating from Brooklyn (particularly Williamsburg) to the more rural Hudson Valley, in communities such as Kingston and Hudson. The article basically made it seem like this rural towns are now thriving centers of art and culture for young people.

For those who live there or are familiar with the area, can you comment on this and say if what is said is true or not? I've never been, but the story made it all seem very appealing, as I always like those types of communities.

Here is the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/ny...oklynites.html
Read the article and while the NYT didnt sugarcoat it all, it does send mix messages. We moved out of Newburgh NY recently and are soooo happy to get out! We tried... we really, really gave it a try, moving from Manhattan to Newburgh but with a downward economy these towns/cities really show their true colors. Newburgh has major poverty...close to 20% of it's resident live in poverty, while many are just making it. It has a 70-30 ratio, renters to owners which is ok in Manhattan but not in these cities were jobs are scarce and resources are nil---except for govt handouts.

Now on to the other towns mentioned. If you are an investor, there are some decent buys. Towns like Beacon however have a ton more to drop. They are way overvalued. School district underperforms, crime is still an issue as is your quality of life overall. Their Main st., is totally well done but once you step outside of that center of town the quality really diminishes. You can't just relocate the poor especially once they have settled so I don't know what Beacon plans to do with the huge fraction of families that depend on gov't assistance--it's a smaller Newburgh. The commute door to door is about 1:30 minutes to midtown NYC. Do that for about 5 years and you'll notice how taxing it can be ---especially if you have kids. I love the hudson valley area for it's scenery but it needs a ton of help---money and addtl infrastructure come to mind. Other towns like Kingston and Poughkeepsie have so much potential but again have huge crime, drug, gang and underperforming schools.

There is somewhat of an art/music scene and folks that try to make a change BUT at the end of the day their influence will not change the manner of an entire town. It happens down in the big apple where BIG money helps to feed an entire army of artists but in these small towns there just isn't enough money to sustain the life... One other main problem is the underlaying corruption of these town/city councils that basically dictate the way the town will live and die...corruption at it's best.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Saratoga Springs and Copake Lake.
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Well, 3 out of 5 new homes build in Coumbia County are second homes , mostly people from the City, not a bad thing, they put people to work and get involved in Town business, to the benefit of all. certainly Hudson has benefited from the influx of City folks.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Hudson Valley/Upper Downstate/Lower Upstate
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Yes, it's true...Typically, those relocating are older millennials from more urban areas. The cities/towns (that I'm familiar with) experiencing this trend are Kingston, Hudson, Newburgh, Poughkeepsie, Saugerties, and Rosendale. Most are located in formerly industrial "river-towns," and specifically in the downtown areas. While it's wonderful to see an increased interest in Hudson River cities, I'm not a fan of gentrification...Which is basically, what's happening.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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I lived in Hudson for 30 + years, have visited a few times since. I think the City folks have brought new life into that particular city and that's good. Of course, real estate is as high as can be, which would be so unbelievable to us as back then. Almost comical back then to think of our little tiny Hudson being so popular in the future. I remember when Urban renewal came in, 70's ?, to do down town over to some extent. For a small city, it's kinda ecclectic and interesting.
There was always that tension between the City and us, Hudson for example. It was mostly benign. They were "City birds" and we were "Wood chucks" or "Bumpkins" type of thing, but not really malicious. Not as nearly divided as what I've found in other states!
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