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Old 08-13-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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It was always officially Hamilton Heights. Sugar Hill is a nickname that was given to area in the 1920's Harlem Renaissance era, because famous black people like Paul Robeson, Countee Cullen, and others lived there.
Did the Sugar Hill Gang come from there LOL?
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:31 AM
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Did the Sugar Hill Gang come from there LOL?
I think they were actually from New Jersey.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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Default Let's not forget Marble Hill ...

And, let's not forget the Manhattan neighborhood that is not even on the map: Marble Hill.

Marble Hill is an area in the southwest Bronx that is not in the Bronx but is part of New York County/Borough of Manhattan, and has been part of New York County since November 1, 1683 when New York County was created.

When city authorities widened the Spuyten Duyvil Creek -- it connects the Hudson River to the Harlem River (the year slips my mind for the moment), the creek bed lay just to the north and east of Marble Hill. Rather than widen this section of the Creek, the engineers dug a new channel to the west of the existing "creek", resulting in Marble Hill appearing to be in the Bronx when one looks at a current map.

But the Marble Hillers remain part of New York County (they vote for the New York County D.A. and are called to serve on New York County juries) and the Borough of Manhattan.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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That's true; almost everyone forgets that Marble Hill is politically a part of Manhattan. I believe that originally, it was connected to Manhattan Island; Spuyten Duyvil was dredged out and the narrow strait separating Marble Hill from The Bronx was filled in. Very similar to the landfill that made Coney Island a peninsula!
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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The strait that separated Marble Hill from the mainland Bronx wasn't filled in right away. For a time, Marble Hill was actually an island!
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:40 PM
 
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So many people do not believe that Marble Hill is Manhattan and attached to the mainland, but the post office has not helped matters by assigning it a Bronx zip code and then the phone company switched them to 718 when the Bronx switched as well.

Marble Hill has a storied history from Dutch colonial days to a prominent position in the Revolutionary War, where for a time Hessians had captured the fort located there.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:06 PM
 
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I love history, especially about New York. Thanks guys!
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:38 PM
 
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I love history, especially about New York. Thanks guys!

quelinda, then, you might like these:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...-east-end.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/new-y...ork-state.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/new-y...ation-nyc.html
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:12 AM
 
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For a little additional history, may I recommend The WPA Guide to New York City, which was originally published in 1939 to coincide with the World's Fair. There's a paperback reprint edition currently available. It's absolutely fascinating--just like opening a time capsule to a vanished world.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:31 PM
 
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Default "The Trial of Levi Weeks"

For those who may want to learn more about life in New York City at the end of the 18th Century, or if you're simply looking for a good read, I recommend:

"The Trial of Levi Weeks" by Estelle Fox Kleiger, Laurel Paperback, March 1991, ppg. 240 (includes Appendix, Notes and Index). (Alternate title: "The Manhattan Well Mystery".)

This case has more going on than the OJ trial:

1. It's the first recorded murder trial in New York City and in the U.S.A.
2. The defense is led by BOTH Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr

From the back cover:

On December 22, 1799, Gulielma (Elma) Sands, a young woman residing in a Greenwich Street boardinghouse, borrowed a muff from a neighbor, left the house, and disappeared. On Christmas Eve, three young boys playing in Lispenard Meadows found Elma's borrowed muff floating in the Manhattan Well. Nine days later, Elma's body, violently battered, her gown "torn open with great violence" was grappled from the depths.

LEVI WEEKS, HER LOVER AND A FELLOW BOARDER, WAS ARRESTED FOR HER MURDER.

Did he do it? Would he be convicted? With brilliant suspense and historical accuracy, author Kreiger recreates the sensational trial of Levi Weeks and lets us witness his defense attorneys--Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr--in action ... in a real life murder mystery that is also a unique portrait of America's past.
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