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I'm next-of-kin to an elderly parent, and have been staying with her to 1) make sure she stays inside as much as humanly possible, 2) braving the elements to take care of groceries and laundry for her. A couple of people within a 5-block radius of her have already passed away, so I couldn't leave her by herself.
I've been a nervous mess over using public laundromats lately. Her apartment building has a small, relatively well-kept laundry, but should I be taking additional precautions aside from protecting my face/hands and washing when no one's around?
I use delivery.com for my laundry. They come to me, they take my laundry bag, and they drop it off clean and folded a day later.
Probably not worth it for you if there's one in the building, but something to keep in mind if you want options.
Would be nice if people would say China virus instead of Chinese virus, or just the coronavirus/covid, but I digress...
Except that's not how people generally speak. We don't say the "Africa Union" or the "Europe Union," but the African Union and the European Union.
When we refer to the "Spanish Flu" (as opposed to "Spain Flu"), everyone knows we aren't attacking or labeling Spaniards. The same assumption should apply to anyone calling covid the "Chinese virus." Unless someone gives me reason to believe otherwise, I assume they are merely referring to the country of origin.
NO, the Spanish Flu didn't start in Spain, but given that Spain was one of a handful of countries not under media blackout at the time due to WWI, much of the news that people were getting on the virus came from Spain, which led to the misconception among many that the virus originated there.
I'm next-of-kin to an elderly parent, and have been staying with her to 1) make sure she stays inside as much as humanly possible, 2) braving the elements to take care of groceries and laundry for her. A couple of people within a 5-block radius of her have already passed away, so I couldn't leave her by herself.
I've been a nervous mess over using public laundromats lately. Her apartment building has a small, relatively well-kept laundry, but should I be taking additional precautions aside from protecting my face/hands and washing when no one's around?
The laundry room in the building would probably be safer, but I think the laundromat would also be safe as long as you maintain 6' distance from other patrons. The direct droplet method appears to the primary transmission cause, with "aerosolized virus spray" onto touched surfaces as secondary. Just wear gloves while there and dispose them when you get home, then wash hands thoroughly.
First, the origins are quite suspect, and even if you give benefit of the doubt there, the Chinese have been horrendous with their lies and coverups and trying to shut up whistle blowers like that poor doctor who died.
There is hardly anything suspect about the origins. Wildlife domestication is a centuries-old tradition in China, longer than hunting with firearms is in North America. With that as your starting point, there are many channels through which the virus could have crossed over to humans other than in the market. It could have started in a farm in the hinterlands and a person working there may have been infected and later travelled to Wuhan.
Cuomo is trying to move heaven and earth to get ventilators. Unfortunately most CV-19 patients put on ventilators die anyway. I've heard numbers anywhere from 50-80% (the number are still in flux because this situation is still pretty new.)
They didn't come out of the forest directly into the human population. This came out of the Wuhan virology lab. They didn't create it. but there were studying exactly this (coronaviruses in bat populations.) Then someone had a woopsie.
There is hardly anything suspect about the origins. Wildlife domestication is a centuries-old tradition in China, longer than hunting with firearms is in North America. With that as your starting point, there are many channels through which the virus could have crossed over to humans other than in the market. It could have started in a farm in the hinterlands and a person working there may have been infected and later travelled to Wuhan.
They didn't come out of the forest directly into the human population. This came out of the Wuhan virology lab. They didn't create it. but there were studying exactly this (coronaviruses in bat populations.) Then someone had a woopsie.
There is no credible scientific publication or medical journal that corroborates this accusation. It doesn't have to come "directly out of the forest". The evidence suggests there was an intermediate host, either another wild animal, a domesticated wild animal, or a domesticated animal. All you need to cultivate this virus is to raise civets or wild boar in a farm, which is very common in parts of China. You don't need a lab to do this.
There is no credible scientific publication or medical journal that corroborates this accusation. It doesn't have to come "directly out of the forest". The evidence suggests there was an intermediate host, either another wild animal, a domesticated wild animal, or a domesticated animal. All you need to cultivate this virus is to raise civets or wild boar in a farm, which is very common in parts of China. You don't need a lab to do this.
FHD, I'm one of those that like to follow proper science and rational thought, but if you follow the timeline in that link (https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...to-wuhan-labs/) it's pretty damning evidence. Not conclusive by any means, but it's looking very plausible that this in fact was an ill advised experiment gone wrong on the part of the Chinese government to find viruses in the wild and investigate their effects
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