Do you consider people living in NYC originally from Nassau and Westchester to be transplants? (Islip: insurance, schools)
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The whole topic is goofy as hell and only east coast cities have this type of provincialism. NYC, Boston, Philly, DC, Baltimore.... Idk why people in these five cities have much bravado it makes you think they're focused on the wrong ****.
Anyways a transplant from another urban east coast/Bos-Wash city will probably have more in common with someone from NYC than a transplant from the rural Midwest or California. There are 3 types of transplants:
-Local transplant: Limited to the metropolitan area
-Regional transplant: Limited to the specific region of the country. In this case anyone from a place that's within the Northeast Corridor is a regional transplant.
-Cross country transplant: Anyone from a different region of the USA
Finally I'll put immigrants in their own category, a mega transplant.
LOL I feel like we don't think of immigrants as transplants!!
I mean honestly, isn't Baldwin all single-family homes?
Are there even ANY apartment buildings in Baldwin?
I'm not claiming Baldwin is urban, but it is dense as Oakland and Los Angeles. It is at the higher density end of what I consider suburbia, while out in Suffolk County you find more typical American suburbia. For what it's worth, my mom grew up in Flatbush and Kensington, and doesn't think Baldwin counts as real suburbia.
There actually are some apartments in Baldwin, though. There are apartments above the stores all along Grand Avenue, and there some standalone apartment buildings too.
I'm not claiming Baldwin is urban, but it is dense as Oakland and Los Angeles. It is at the higher density end of what I consider suburbia, while out in Suffolk County you find more typical American suburbia. For what it's worth, my mom grew up in Flatbush and Kensington, and doesn't think Baldwin counts as real suburbia.
There actually are some apartments in Baldwin, though. There are apartments above the stores all along Grand Avenue, and there some standalone apartment buildings too.
That's because the people who complain about transplants are often the children of immigrants. Transplant is really just code for white.
I do think white immigrants from anywhere except for MAYBE Eastern Europe would be considered transplants, though.
What these children of immigrants can’t seem to acknowledge is the true issue is they feel left out of the lifestyle that transplants engage in. It’s jealousy. They should try to move up socioeconomically. If there are barriers to this because of racism, classism, or other factors they need to become politically active. Many of these people don’t vote and don’t participate in local or state elections. So if you are trying to do anything productive you need to start blaming and fixing yourself.
Also, a neighborhood doesn't need to have mostly apartment buildings to not be suburban. South Jamaica is mostly blocks like this, and there's no way in hell you can call it a suburban neighborhood in my opinion
I have a feeling nobody would say this about people from Long Beach, Compton, Watts, Inglewood, etc. moving to Los Angeles. Or Decatur/College Park to Atlanta
Yeah we wouldn’t see them as local but not exactly transplants. It would be similar to someone moving from Brooklyn to the Bronx. Orange County to LA would be different.
Also, a neighborhood doesn't need to have mostly apartment buildings to not be suburban. South Jamaica is mostly blocks like this, and there's no way in hell you can call it a suburban neighborhood in my opinion
By NYC standards though, that block is suburban. But much of Queens is like that and there are areas with bigger lots and houses in Queens.
Which is why I think of Queens and Western Nassau as similar as the real suburban look doesn’t start until say Hicksville.
The thing is, you’re from LI and you know the areas well where people live in truly beautiful homes. To people who don’t get out much of NYC, any places with houses and yards is the suburbs.
By NYC standards though, that block is suburban. But much of Queens is like that and there are areas with bigger lots and houses in Queens.
Which is why I think of Queens and Western Nassau as similar as the real suburban look doesn’t start until say Hicksville.
The thing is, you’re from LI and you know the areas well where people live in truly beautiful homes. To people who don’t get out much of NYC, any places with houses and yards is the suburbs.
South Jamaica might not be super urban by NYC standards, but it is still denser than the Queens average (and is very urban by US standards).
I mean, those houses don't even have driveways and the yards might be made out of cement
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