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A new rental community opened around the corner of Hoyt and Schermorn and literally is on top of the A/C/G subway stop. I asked a friend how the area is and she said that it's very shady. I've been there during the day once and it seemed OK and quiet but not very shady(a little though). Seems very accessible with most subway lines all within a half mile.
Obviously, it'll be best to check out the neighborhood various times of the day but if any of you live over in that area or know it very well, how would you rate the general area? It's pretty close to Smith street so there seems to be some amenties over there but how is it overall in terms of crime and convenience? We won't move until October but will start checking out neighborhoods.
Thanks.
PS, the Michael Jackson video BAD was filmed in that subway station, I guess this is an interesting fact, ha.
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hoyt/sch was actually a safe point for me.. because i knew after that i was going straight to the hell part of brooklyn :-/
but its fine..less people there at the stop
but i rather get off there than say kingston throop or ralph ave.
and someone told me that it BAD was filmed there (i love michael) the subways look so much cleaner than with the white tile and all lol
Can you define what you (or your friend) mean by "shady"? I'm assuming that she didn't mean that there were lots of trees and plenty of shade.
Shady as in seedy, some "questionable" characters according to her. She grew up suburban, I grew up in a tough neighborhood in Chicago so it's subjective.
Shady as in seedy, some "questionable" characters according to her. She grew up suburban, I grew up in a tough neighborhood in Chicago so it's subjective.
I would say that your friend has brought her suburban sensibilities to an urban environment. It's not the area that's out of sorts, it's her sensibilities.
Downtown Brooklyn is a busy, commercial area. It's not tony shopping like Madison Avenue, and it's full of working people who are mostly "of color". If you're uncomfortable being surrounded by lots of brown folks who are blue collar working class, then you'll probably not be particularly happy there, but there's nothing particularly "shady" about the area.
I would say that your friend has brought her suburban sensibilities to an urban environment. It's not the area that's out of sorts, it's her sensibilities.
Downtown Brooklyn is a busy, commercial area. It's not tony shopping like Madison Avenue, and it's full of working people who are mostly "of color". If you're uncomfortable being surrounded by lots of brown folks who are blue collar working class, then you'll probably not be particularly happy there, but there's nothing particularly "shady" about the area.
Now this is a great, sensible post! What is it about these out of towners and Brooklyn anyway? Some of them want to dive head first into the most horrible ghettos in the Northeast, while others get nervous about stable, working class areas like Downtown and Flatbush simply because there are lots of black people around! Is there any happy medium here?
I wouldn't call the area around Hoyt & Schermerhorn Streets "shady." It's not thoroughly residential...although that could change!
Incidentally, a lot more than Michael Jackson's video was shot in that subway station. The two outer platforms (which have been abandoned since 1946) have been used hundreds of times for commercials, as well as subway scenes in movies. If there's a scene being filmed there and your timing is right, you'll find lots of people taking the A,C or G to Hoyt/Schermerhorn and just standing around on the platform, hoping to catch sight of a star.
I use to live 10 minutes walking from there. The area is perfectly fine, although it may not look like the safest place in the world. And that's primarily because Fulton Mall attracts certain types of people to the area (homeless, low income, thugs etc). I've never had a problem walking through the mall at any time, going between Flatbush and Court St.
As far as convenience, like most of Brooklyn, it's only attraction and value is the proximity to Manhattan. The stores on Smith are nice/ok for Brooklyn standards.
As far as convenience, like most of Brooklyn, it's only attraction and value is the proximity to Manhattan. The stores on Smith are nice/ok for Brooklyn standards.
Ouch.
Anyway, i'm a person of "color" too so obviously that doesn't bother me but I want the peace of mind that my wife will be mostly safe while coming from work, etc.
Anyway, i'm a person of "color" too so obviously that doesn't bother me but I want the peace of mind that my wife will be mostly safe while coming from work, etc.
Interesting fact Fred about that subway station.
Thanks for the replies so far, keep them coming.
I'll pay another visit there next week.
As a person of color too...the area is safe, it just appears to look a little rough. But there is quite a strong police presence in and around the mall because of all the rowdy kids there late nights.
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