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Old 06-03-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Sure they are. In fact they're the original ones:

Hispanic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Note in there the proper Spanish term for them - "Hispano". So in Spanish you have "Anglos" and "Hispanos". In English they would be presumably "Anglics" and "Hispanics", though "Anglics" has never gained much favor.
Ok, then if Spaniards are Hispanic and Africans from the Dominican Republic and Indigenous people of Mexico are Hispanic,

then

English people are Anglo and Russians, and Irish, and Poles, and Germans from America, Canada, and Australia are Anglo.

<edit: The reason I assumed the Spanish were not Hispanic is that every Spaniard I have met bristles at the term, "I'm not Hispanic, I'm Spanish!". Apparently on Spanish news and newspapers, 'Hispanic' is the term used to describe recent immigrants to Spain from the Americas when individual nationalities are not mentioned. Maybe that has something to do with that reaction.>
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Many Spaniards do not call themselves Hispanics...
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Old 06-03-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Many Spaniards do not call themselves Hispanics...
And many English-Americans don't call themselves Anglos.
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Old 06-07-2010, 01:47 AM
 
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Ok, then if Spaniards are Hispanic and Africans from the Dominican Republic and Indigenous people of Mexico are Hispanic,

then

English people are Anglo and Russians, and Irish, and Poles, and Germans from America, Canada, and Australia are Anglo.

<edit: The reason I assumed the Spanish were not Hispanic is that every Spaniard I have met bristles at the term, "I'm not Hispanic, I'm Spanish!". Apparently on Spanish news and newspapers, 'Hispanic' is the term used to describe recent immigrants to Spain from the Americas when individual nationalities are not mentioned. Maybe that has something to do with that reaction.>
Actually, the "Anglo" term in reference to Russians and Poles is incorrect.
Both nationalities are Slavic and being referred to as an "Anglo" can be insulting. The "Caucasian" term is more accurate since both of those nationalities originated from their ancestral lands in the Caucusus region between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea.

Russians and Poles living in America are bilingual as well, so the term Anglo applied to English speaking people is only half correct.

"Anglo" needs to be retired because it lumps all white english speaking people under one incorrect label.
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Old 06-07-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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Poland is the result of a confederation of tribes who originally spoke several different languages including Slavic, Germanic, Baltic and Altaic. One of those tribes were the ur-Poles (made up of the closely related groups, Polans, Masovians, Vistulans, Silesians and Pomeranians) and through their domination (along with the church which codified Church Slavonic as a written standard) every ethnicity in Poland began speaking Polish and today Polish people, regardless of the language their ancestors spoke and their tribal affiliation, regardless of not being a descendant of the original tribes of Poles in their little center of what is today west-central Poland (Polanie) speaks Polish and is called a Pole.

That is the same situation with the term 'Anglo'; people of diverse ethnic and linguistic origin who are united by their Anglophonic language and Anglocentric culture.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:05 PM
 
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Look, here's the deal. The Southwest was a much simpler place when the term was coined. Basically you had Spaniards/Mexicans, Americans, and Indians. The locals chose "Anglo" to describe everyone who wasn't Spaniard/Mexican or Indian which is pretty much what they do today. To try to parse who should and shouldn't be called "Anglo" at this point is kind of silly.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:02 PM
 
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CAVA1990: Right you are. An old girl friend of mine was formerly married to a Latino whose family was ever so proud that they were of Spanish extraction and not the despicable low-class "Indios" (their words, not mine). All this bologna is indeed silly. I'm English/German/Dutch/French/etc. and don't mind the appellation "Anglo" in the least.
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am actually of Anglo-Saxon and Celtic ancestry so calling me an Anglo would be perfectly correct but I prefer to be called a Yankee.
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:58 AM
 
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I am actually of Anglo-Saxon and Celtic ancestry so calling me an Anglo would be perfectly correct but I prefer to be called a Yankee.
I thought folks in your neck of the woods were all Red Sox fans.
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:28 AM
 
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Poland is the result of a confederation of tribes who originally spoke several different languages including Slavic, Germanic, Baltic and Altaic. One of those tribes were the ur-Poles (made up of the closely related groups, Polans, Masovians, Vistulans, Silesians and Pomeranians) and through their domination (along with the church which codified Church Slavonic as a written standard) every ethnicity in Poland began speaking Polish and today Polish people, regardless of the language their ancestors spoke and their tribal affiliation, regardless of not being a descendant of the original tribes of Poles in their little center of what is today west-central Poland (Polanie) speaks Polish and is called a Pole.

That is the same situation with the term 'Anglo'; people of diverse ethnic and linguistic origin who are united by their Anglophonic language and Anglocentric culture.
I understand your analogy, especially your last sentence, however, a Slav is not an Anglo. For example, you wouldn't call people of all the different Native American tribes a blanket term such as "Navajos"? Would you?

If you were to travel to Eastern Europe and refer to the people as "Anglos", they would laugh you out of town to say the least. The term "Anglo" is disrespectful of the ethnic diversity that exists among the caucasian race.
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