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Old 01-06-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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13 New Jersey Counties out of top 20 highest paying taxes. Warren County? Hunterton/Sussex? And there still is no money?!!

Washington, DC, December 15, 2008 - New data released today by the Census Bureau show that over a three-year period (2005, 2006 and 2007) average homeowners in New York and New Jersey counties paid the most in property taxes while those in Louisiana parishes paid the least.

[CENTER]Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes Paid
2005-2007 Average
(Population of 20,000 or More)
County
State
Median Real Estate Tax Paid
Rank
Westchester County
New York
$7,908
1
Nassau County
New York
7,726
2
Hunterdon County
New Jersey
7,708
3
Bergen County
New Jersey
7,370
4
Somerset County
New Jersey
7,201
5
Essex County
New Jersey
7,149
6
Rockland County
New York
7,066
7
Morris County
New Jersey
6,977
8
Union County
New Jersey
6,727
9
Passaic County
New Jersey
6,673
10
Putnam County
New York
6,553
11
Suffolk County
New York
6,502
12
Monmouth County
New Jersey
6,360
13
Hudson County
New Jersey
5,865
14
Lake County
Illinois
5,790
15
Fairfield County
Connecticut
5,694
16
Sussex County
New Jersey
5,677
17
Middlesex County
New Jersey
5,575
18
Mercer County
New Jersey
5,457
19
Warren County
New Jersey
5,228
20[/CENTER]



The Tax Foundation - New Census Data: From 2005 to 2007, New York, New Jersey Counties Rank Highest in Property Tax on Homeowners; Louisiana Parishes Rank Lowest
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Those are the median values! Half pay more and half pay less. I'd like to see the average value too - probably that's much higher. If you peruse the data, you'll find that Passaic County pays the highest percentage of family income of all the counties in the country!

NJ and Your Wallet - Perfect Together!
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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I'm in Hunterdon. Yippe !! We're number three...come on folks...let's try for number 2...come on Corslime...you can do it !!

And btw...I pay a LOT more than that $7708 figure.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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I'm in Hunterdon. Yippe !! We're number three...come on folks...let's try for number 2...come on Corslime...you can do it !!

And btw...I pay a LOT more than that $7708 figure.
You can't blame Corslime for property taxes... blame your local government for that one. Our State taxes are cheap!
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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You can't blame Corslime for property taxes... blame your local government for that one. Our State taxes are cheap!
Oh yes you can Wiley. When other administrations, such as State Police funding, for instance, are being cut, the locality often in response has to raise taxes to foot the bill for even minimal services. The greatest argument for regionalizing services falls under this cloak, just to partially offset these rates posted. However, I've concluded that this is the way most New Jerseyans would prefer to live. Ultimately, they choose more services as an alternative to lower taxes. They want to lead insularly within their small towns, and not share services amongst each other.

Go through a list of the 566 municipalities, then take one of my maps I've posted, and see how many municipalities could be eliminated, almost immediately. I guess what I am trying to say is that you can tie a good deal of these increases into Corzine's budget cuts, which are targeted towards suburban and rural communities. However, that's only part of the problem. The bigger pictures is the unwillingness of many New Jerseyans to even consider consolidating local governments.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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Oh yes you can Wiley. When other administrations, such as State Police funding, for instance, are being cut, the locality often in response has to raise taxes to foot the bill for even minimal services. The greatest argument for regionalizing services falls under this cloak, just to partially offset these rates posted. However, I've concluded that this is the way most New Jerseyans would prefer to live. Ultimately, they choose more services as an alternative to lower taxes. They want to lead insularly within their small towns, and not share services amongst each other.

Go through a list of the 566 municipalities, then take one of my maps I've posted, and see how many municipalities could be eliminated, almost immediately. I guess what I am trying to say is that you can tie a good deal of these increases into Corzine's budget cuts, which are targeted towards suburban and rural communities. However, that's only part of the problem. The bigger pictures is the unwillingness of many New Jerseyans to even consider consolidating local governments.
We have a winner!!! Demand then complain!
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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And just what Exactly is the percentage of my "Local" taxes that actually end up disappearing into the sink holes of such things as Abbott Districts huh ???

Funny how that little tidbit is Always left out of every local budget that I've ever seen...
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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And just what Exactly is the percentage of my "Local" taxes that actually end up disappearing into the sink holes of such things as Abbott Districts huh ???

Funny how that little tidbit is Always left out of every local budget that I've ever seen...
Your local property taxes pay only for your schools. State Income Tax funds the Abbott Districts. It's just that the state does not contribute to your school system with state income tax money, so you bear the full brunt of those educational costs.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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Your local property taxes pay only for your schools. State Income Tax funds the Abbott Districts. It's just that the state does not contribute to your school system with state income tax money, so you bear the full brunt of those educational costs.
I will admit i'm not deeply involved in all the local versus state accounting and I'll assume for sake of discussion that that you are correct re the Abbott situation example I used.

However....

I find it VERY difficult to believe all my local taxes stay local to my school system etc. I'm pretty sure my property tax rebate check comes from the STATE...Not by county or local township... Some how that STATE
ended up with some of those funds or they wouldn't be refunding it.

And that points to the "budgets" our locals always publish every year. yes we all look at the pie charts and see how much got spent on schools, how much for local parks etc etc etc, and if you add it all up that's the budget.
Well sort of....

The question I'm asking is no where that I've ever seen is it published how much the country took in from taxes versus the published "budget". We're left to of course to assume that the budget accounts for all that....but let's not be so naive .
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:07 PM
 
Location: South Philly
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The general rule is that 50% of your property taxes go to your local school districts. In some towns it's 60%. The town I grew up in had one levy for k-8 then another for the regional high school. The school districts levy the taxes. Your town collects them and turns the money over. The state has nothing to do with it.

25% of your property taxes go to the county and 25% go to your town.

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I'm pretty sure my property tax rebate check comes from the STATE...Not by county or local township... Some how that STATE ended up with some of those funds or they wouldn't be refunding it.
It's a rebate not a refund. You even wrote it yourself.

Basically, people like you complain to state politicians (who have nothing to do with property tax levies) that your property taxes are too high. In an attempt to get reelected some genius come up with the rebate scheme. The state raised other taxes so that they could send everyone a check each year so you can feel better about your property taxes.

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And that points to the "budgets" our locals always publish every year. yes we all look at the pie charts and see how much got spent on schools, how much for local parks etc etc etc, and if you add it all up that's the budget. Well sort of....
Well, not at all. If the premise doesn't hold the conclusion can't follow.

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The question I'm asking is no where that I've ever seen is it published how much the country took in from taxes versus the published "budget". We're left to of course to assume that the budget accounts for all that....but let's not be so naive .
The country? So now we're going to ask Pelosi and Obama to lower our property taxes?
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