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Old 07-06-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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Carl Drega was an insane nutball who murdered 4 people. He's no hero.
No one. Absolutely no one is calling Carl Drega a hero. Al least not here. Maybe some fringe group jumped onto the story without facts. He ain't no hero. Far from it.



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He's got an entry in Murderpedia. Apparently he was working on a massive bomb like fellow "freedom fighter" Timothy McVeigh used in Oklahoma City, only this was probably intended to incinerate local people, who pretty much describe him as a frightening lunatic with a violent vibe. He did shoot 8 of them, killing 4. Apparently he still has "fans", though it's hard to understand why. I guess the Colombine shooters do too, and plenty who seem to want to emulate them - strange world we live in...
Please. Wikipedia and Murderpedia are written by anyone. Yes, there are some facts. But not always the whole story.


""The plaintiff feels he cannot receive a fair trial in Coos County," Drega wrote in his printed scrawl, recounting his conflicts with local officials, his run-ins with police, the earlier court decisions against him all the way back to the $600 fine over the tarpaper flap in 1971.
Next to the letter that denied him a permit in 1971 because he had tarpaper on his house, Drega placed a copy of zoning ordinance amendments Columbia voters adopted the following year. On March 7, 1972, this proviso was added to the town's zoning: "Exterior walls of buildings shall be finished with durable standard materials."
In a letter that outlined his grievances and that his records show he sent to the state Attorney General's Office in September 1994, Drega wrote, "Although they brought charges against me for not having finish siding before the law required it, after that time they have not taken action against other people in town for doing the same thing. A neighbor of mine used tarpaper siding on a building he built in 1980 and the town never brought any charges against him. It seems that the selectmen treat people they don't like differently from those they do." "

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Carl Drega was no Timothy McVeigh. He did not plan from 1971 to make some "bomb" at that time. Those came much later.

All Carl Drega wanted was a cabin in the woods. Whether he was nuts to begin with is up to debate. Maybe he was. But it took him from at least 1971 to 1997 to go completely nuts.

An interesting footnote is that the town passed a zoning ordinance basically aimed at his tarpaper cabin.

As with many small New Hampshire towns some locals can do anything with their property while those that are not liked - the wrath of God comes upon them.

Was Carl Drega nuts from the beginning or did the whole process from 1971 to 1997 make him go nuts?
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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Best the read up on the WHOLE story. Not just the end of the story.

All began with a cabin that he was building in the woods off the beaten path in a small New Hampshire town up north.


Read up about the cabin in the woods that Mr. Drega was building and what that process was in that quaint little New Hampshire.
We all know the story. What you're hinting at is irrational. You're saying that Drega was harassed and therefore it's understandable that he killed four people and wounded three. You know, a great many of us are frustrated by all kinds of laws and conditions in society. We all have to live within the laws of the place where we've chosen to live or go to a place with no laws or different laws. And/or you can work to change the laws you don't like. In the end Drega was enraged that he was stopped for rust on his truck. Well, there's a reason why you can't drive a rusty truck---public safety. Sure, an accumulation of events set him off. But ALL of us have a history of those events and yes, many of them are as bad as Drega's history. We live with it. We don't go out and kill innocent people.
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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We all know the story. What you're hinting at is irrational. You're saying that Drega was harassed and therefore it's understandable that he killed four people and wounded three. You know, a great many of us are frustrated by all kinds of laws and conditions in society. We all have to live within the laws of the place where we've chosen to live or go to a place with no laws or different laws. And/or you can work to change the laws you don't like. In the end Drega was enraged that he was stopped for rust on his truck. Well, there's a reason why you can't drive a rusty truck---public safety. Sure, an accumulation of events set him off. But ALL of us have a history of those events and yes, many of them are as bad as Drega's history. We live with it. We don't go out and kill innocent people.
Yes - in order to fit into any kind of society or hold a job, you're going to need to be able to accept and follow some rules, and yes those were made by someone else - unless you live in a society of 1 or work in a workplace of 1, this is necessarily the case. Even to get along with neighbors, you need to be able to take others' needs and interests into account. It's not unusual to not agree with everything or everyone, or to feel a little frustrated by something, but most people manage to handle such things, because in context, they're just not a big deal. It is unusual to lose your s--t, to act out with threats, vandalism, assault, or even murder.
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Please. Wikipedia and Murderpedia are written by anyone. Yes, there are some facts. But not always the whole story.
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Carl Drega was no Timothy McVeigh. He did not plan from 1971 to make some "bomb" at that time.
You do realize that the highroad.com site you linked to is "written by anyone", and that those notes from Mr Drega, even if they are precisely what he wrote, may not be the most accurate, unbiased account of things? He is the same guy who went full nutjob, yes?

If you don't think he had some very bad plans for bomb-making books, blasting caps, 600lb of ammonium nitrate and 60 gallons of diesel fuel hidden in tunnels, then what was he planning to use that on? Gophers?
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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No one. Absolutely no one is calling Carl Drega a hero. Al least not here. Maybe some fringe group jumped onto the story without facts. He ain't no hero. Far from it.

Was Carl Drega nuts from the beginning or did the whole process from 1971 to 1997 make him go nuts?
Was Carl Dregs nuts from the beginning or did the whole process from 1971 to 1997 make him go nuts?


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If you don't think he had some very bad plans for bomb-making books, blasting caps, 600lb of ammonium nitrate and 60 gallons of diesel fuel hidden in tunnels, then what was he planning to use that on? Gophers?
The bomb making came long after 1971.

Again, no one is stating the this person did anything other then snuff the lives of those killed. Murder at it's worst. Here in New Hampshire.

The whole process should be viewed in it's entirety. Which many sites just don't do.


All started with a simple cabin in the woods in a rural northern New Hampshire town somewhere near 1971.
Then went down hill. Analysis of the process should be analyzed. The murders took place in 1997.
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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unit731 - I have no axe to grind with you and this is in the past. For my part I want to turn this thread back over to the OP, who was asking for practical suggestions on communities with low or no zoning restrictions.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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unit731 - I have no axe to grind with you and this is in the past. For my part I want to turn this thread back over to the OP, who was asking for practical suggestions on communities with low or no zoning restrictions.
Agree completely.

The overall point was that sometimes issues arise in constructing that cabin/ute in the woods on family land or commercial land or whatever land.

The above issue has been covered pretty good.

Now back to the newbies and their desire to construct whatever in New Hampshire.
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