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Oh yeah I understand that part, after it was explained, I just don't get how these other guys who want him dead, even know Satan or are aware that he has some kind of deal going on with Satan and all.
Oh yeah I understand that part, after it was explained, I just don't get how these other guys who want him dead, even know Satan or are aware that he has some kind of deal going on with Satan and all.
They want him dead because they are all basically crazy for following Satan. Everyone wants to be on top in ruthless hunger for power.
The movie is like any horror story. It shows the truth what is really going on underneath our reality in the spiritual world. Any kind of competition is like that. Business. Sports. Politics. And even the "friendly" contests in classrooms and churches. Everyone looks so mild and friendly on the outside, but inside you know there is a Johnny Angel lurking in the dark corner just waiting to attack.
Oh yeah I understand that part, after it was explained, I just don't get how these other guys who want him dead, even know Satan or are aware that he has some kind of deal going on with Satan and all.
I don’t think you really going to get it, because you think in very concrete black-and-white terms and the movie is more nuanced than that. You keep wanting concrete explanation but human behavior doesn’t work like that. That’s why you’re struggling with your own script because you’re concentrating on the external and on action and little to nothing on internal motivations and the whys of real human behavior and thought.
Oh okay, I thought the characters in my script were acting based on internal motivations, or at least those were the motivations I gave the characters to behave off of.
Plus Angel Heart doesn't really get into the internal motivations of the other characters as much, since we are seeing pretty much everything from the protagonists point of view.
Oh okay, I thought the characters in my script were acting based on internal motivations, or at least those were the motivations I gave the characters to behave off of.
Plus Angel Heart doesn't really get into the internal motivations of the other characters as much, since we are seeing pretty much everything from the protagonists point of view.
Yes.
Movies in general are much more difficult in their ability to portray inner lives of characters. A novel can easily describe what's going on inside the character's heads, but a movie has to find some external way to display the internal life.
Sometimes, even the most skilled movie-maker can fail at it.
Read Arthur C. Clarke's novel "2001" and then watch Kubrick's movie. The final scenes in the book make it very clear as to what happens to the last astronaut, but the movie leaves us all wondering what happened.
Kubrick couldn't use dialog, so he tried his best to tell it with visuals, but Clarke, using words, could make the ending very clear and specific.
Clarke's ending made perfect sense, but I liked Kubrick's confusing, mystical ending much better. Leaving the viewer left to draw his own conclusions is not always a bad thing. The book was nowhere as popular as the movie, and Clarke was a best-selling author.
The book is forgotten now, but the movie is a classic. That's the power of leaving some things unsaid in motion pictures. Interestingly, "2001's" sequel, "2010" actually explained the ending, but in a totally different way than in the book. Kubrick had nothing to do with 2010; another group of writers were confronted with the same set of problems Kubrick had, and they got around them by creating an entirely different ending that could use dialog, voice-overs, and all the other stuff movies have to describe subtle inner-life things.
I saw the movie again, after quite a few years. I feel that it's close but no cigar perhaps, as the cinematography, sets, music, costumes and acting is all very good actually. The style is great!
However, once the ending comes and the you find out what the private detectives investigation all amounts too, it doesn't really amount to much. There are all these deaths, and people who wanted the main character out of the way, trying to stop him along the way, but in the end, you find out that all these characters and their subplots in the investigation didn't even matter.
It's like the writers thought well, we have a premise, and we have an ending to that premise, now we need to find things to fill in the space in between. Unless I'm looking at it the wrong way?
Still love the style and atmosphere, and it might be worth watching just for that! What do you think?
Lou Cypher. I will never forget that line. It's not Lucifer after the fall, it's Satan. Isn't that just like the devil to use his "other" name.
Doesn't anybody remember that Johnny Favorite and his devil worshipping buddies lured that soldier from the street, then ate his heart? That was supposed to get you a face to face with Satan
himself.
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