Question about how pistols how portrayed in movies. (watching, 2015, terrible)
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Isn't the two handed stance realistic though? I mean if you look at actual surveillance footage of police and law enforcement, I never see them fire a gun with one hand in a firefight, in real footage.
I did not think the poster was worried about the grip so much as the "skill" of clearing a room in two seconds.
I'm not sure trigger discipline was as rigorously enforced prior to the 70s or so.
I am betting it only really started after the accidental deaths of Jon Erik Hexum in 1984 and Brandon Lee in 1993. Since "cowboys" did not as a rule go with two handed grips like TV cops did after Paul Michael Glaser's Detective Sergeant David Starsky on Starsky and Hutch so the weapon of the cowboy was holstered or at the hip level before bringing the arm up to fire I don't remember if the trigger fingers were on the trigger or not, certainly it wasn't a camera focus point for the directors of that era.
Basically in alot of movies, if a pistol is cocked, the character, will uncock, it by pulling the trigger slightly and lowering the hammer. But I was wondering, why do you they do this? It's just risky to fire that way.
Would it make more sense to put the safety on, since the safety itself de-***** the hammer, after it's switched on?
See what I said in "The World is Not Enough" (it is in the goofs).
Another movie mistake is when characters have their finger on the trigger before acquiring the target. Most James Bond 007 publicity posters depict the actors who've played 007 throughout the decades, with the finger on the trigger of the Walther PPK, or in Brosnan's case a later Walther.
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I'm not sure trigger discipline was as rigorously enforced prior to the 70s or so.
A few hours after reading this I was watching a Filipino teleserye where three special forces cops, the sole survivors of their massacred unit were being held in a cage by "communist" rebels with one being threatened with rape and the other two being beaten as they were trying to get them to identify an undercover cop that had infiltrated the rebel group. One of the cops got the drop on the turn coat leader of the rebels and while holding the gun to his head and using him as a human shield to escape from the rest of the rifle armed communist squad you could see that light skin of his finger straight along the slide of the weapon. And I was thinking this is one point where his finger really should be on the trigger.
So the cop is in the end disarmed and the "not really communist" (who is a traitor to his rebel group) cut off his head like those other religious based rebels are prone to do to terrorize the other two cops. While seeing the finger extended on the slide, because the script didn't call for him to shot and weapons safety it reminded that the hero of the show, the undercover cop that he was protecting, had at least two other occasions took the shot and rescued folks with guns to their head and the not communist rifle armed squad at point blank range could have done the same thing if the script didn't call for the not communist leader to fight his own way out
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I'm more concerned with how the sound is produced in a movie with guns.
It's gotten so the greater public doesn't even know what a gun sounds like any more!
Everytime I read a news item about a shooting in public, someone says "It sounded like fire crackers at first". Or in the park where JFK was shot when his motorcade passed through: "I thought it was motorcycle backfire"(there were at least a dozen police on bikes near Kennedy that day).
Folks grew up on movies and TV where gunfire was produced to sound like BWWWSHHHH, BWWWSSSHH!! BOOOWWWSSHHH! because the sound of real gunfire wouldn't translate well on TV or in the cinema.
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<>Folks grew up on movies and TV where gunfire was produced to sound like BWWWSHHHH, BWWWSSSHH!! BOOOWWWSSHHH! because the sound of real gunfire wouldn't translate well on TV or in the cinema.
I remember cowboy bullets ricocheting off rocks as a "SHWANGE!", which has come to have a completely different meaning since Wayne's World.
I'm more concerned with how the sound is produced in a movie with guns.
It's gotten so the greater public doesn't even know what a gun sounds like any more!
Everytime I read a news item about a shooting in public, someone says "It sounded like fire crackers at first". Or in the park where JFK was shot when his motorcade passed through: "I thought it was motorcycle backfire"(there were at least a dozen police on bikes near Kennedy that day).
Folks grew up on movies and TV where gunfire was produced to sound like BWWWSHHHH, BWWWSSSHH!! BOOOWWWSSHHH! because the sound of real gunfire wouldn't translate well on TV or in the cinema.
How do they get the sound FX for guns in movies? I'm editing a short film I made right now, and cannot get any good sound effects for it, by using real guns.
And also, it depends on the gun. Some revolvers don't have a "safety." You just lower the hammer, and the only way to do that is to pull the trigger slightly. As for semi-autos ... well, only an idiot walks around with a cocked gun on his hip.
You clearly lack even a limited knowledge of firearms. The 1911 is designed to be carried exactly that way, as well as some newer design handguns.
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