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View Poll Results: Do you like SHAKY CAM?
Yes 11 39.29%
No 15 53.57%
Not Sure 2 7.14%
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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Depends on how it's used.

The Shield used it to great effect.

The Bourne movies did not.

Spielberg used shaky cam for key moments in Saving Private Ryan. Worked beautifully.

Star Trek (2009) looked good to me.

It's like reverb and chorus (effects used on too many songs in the latter half of the 1980s). Liberal use of either can be bad.
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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There are a couple of different effects that might be called "shaky cam."


One effect--the one used in the first minutes of "Saving Private Ryan" is using a very high camera shutter speed that is then replayed at a normal frame per second rate. The camera itself is actually steady, but there are bit gaps chopped out of fluid motion that our brains just barely detect.
The effect people mostly complain about is the tracking of the camera eye, which follows an erratic path all around the line of sight. When it's overdone, it's harder to focus on certain elements. A high shutter speed doesn't disallow for that as much. It just gives the picture a "flickery" lick.

There's a lot of footage in Saving Private Ryan (which has since been used quite a bit) that makes motion seem faster by removing frames, particularly when they take the hill (where Giovanni Ribisi's character gets killed) and in the finale. I think it worked very well.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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I tend to avoid movies that use shaky-cam. Blair Witch is an abomination that made money. If I ever did want to watch it, I'd run it through virtualdub with the appropriate filters. Even Google allows people to image stabilize.

The "put the camera on a circular track" way of filming a conversation is vomit-cam. The only way I can watch those scenes is to cover one eye. Otherwise my years of working with 3-D imagery will make me ill.

I suspect the people who promote the use of such idiocy are the same ones who ride rollercoasters for multiple rides. Their vestibular systems are somehow attached to their d*cks.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The effect people mostly complain about is the tracking of the camera eye, which follows an erratic path all around the line of sight.
BINGO!
. . .
Also, just about every fight / action sequence is now so jerky and chopped up, that it is unwatchable.
Pure garbage.

I recently tried to watch "Man of Steel" (2013) and gave up. It was ruined by gawful cinematography.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I hate it. It is distracting, sometime dizzying, annoying and trying way too hard to be hip and edgy.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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I recently tried to watch "Man of Steel" (2013) and gave up. It was ruined by gawful cinematography.
Try watching the fights in Captain America: Civil War before they get to the airport centerpiece. You'll love Man of Steel after that.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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I tend to avoid movies that use shaky-cam. Blair Witch is an abomination that made money. If I ever did want to watch it, I'd run it through virtualdub with the appropriate filters. Even Google allows people to image stabilize.

The "put the camera on a circular track" way of filming a conversation is vomit-cam. The only way I can watch those scenes is to cover one eye. Otherwise my years of working with 3-D imagery will make me ill.

I suspect the people who promote the use of such idiocy are the same ones who ride rollercoasters for multiple rides. Their vestibular systems are somehow attached to their d*cks.
You do realize the whole point of that (severely overrated) movie was that it was "found footage"?
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Try watching...
When this audience unit sees ugly radio, it turns away, and if too much ugly radio, turns it off.
I have a nice 7' wide 1080p video projected image, with 5.1 audio, and a La-Z-Boy anti-gravity chair... I aim to be entertained, not annoyed.
. . .
And in response to the video bovine excrement on Network TV, I've pretty much ceased watching it - except for news casts.

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Old 05-31-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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STOP SHAKY CAM !
Get a tripod.
Yes most or many get sick..
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:47 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I tend to avoid movies that use shaky-cam. Blair Witch is an abomination that made money. If I ever did want to watch it, I'd run it through virtualdub with the appropriate filters. Even Google allows people to image stabilize.

The "put the camera on a circular track" way of filming a conversation is vomit-cam. The only way I can watch those scenes is to cover one eye. Otherwise my years of working with 3-D imagery will make me ill.

I suspect the people who promote the use of such idiocy are the same ones who ride rollercoasters for multiple rides. Their vestibular systems are somehow attached to their d*cks.
Yes - vomit-cam, or barf-cam, the spinning around and around is just the pits.

Another overdone effect on a series I've been watching on Netflix, Bloodline, really overdoes it with camera angles shot from a distance, where whatever is in the foreground creates out-of-focus blur while the people speaking are a distance away (in focus), so you have this nebulous dark fuzz around the shot. It would make sense if it were from the perspective of someone who is lurking surreptitiously, but the effect is just for 'art' and if I'm noticing it too often then it's being overused.
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