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Probably one of my favorite trilogies in recent memory, definitely a movie where its sequels did not disappoint, which is hard to find anymore. Truly delighted at Bale's acting in these movies, he gives a great performance, and the supporting actors are all top notch as well.
Anyways, I think I'm amongst the minority of my friends and most people when I say this, but I do believe that "Batman Begins" was probably my favorite of the series. It's an EXTREMELY close contest, since they are all top notch movies and probably instant classics. I still can't decide between the Dark Knight and the Dark Knight Rises.
I did enjoy how each movie dealt with a particular theme, in Batman Begins it was "fear" in the Dark Knight it was Casualty and Chaos and in the Dark Knight Rises it was about Hope. The dark nature of Batman Begins where you truly learn who Bruce Wayne is and how he became the man he is was a fantastic story. It wasn't overdone with an incredibly complicated plot, or action scenes that have you scratching your head wondering how his enemies could possibly plan for that. It was very straightforward but with a powerful underlying theme. Just my take.
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I liked BATMAN BEGINS. Didn't love it. I thought the first half of the movie was excellent, but then it got rather silly. I don't understand the reasoning behind the way so many directors handle super hero movie villains. They're making a live action movie and striving to make it as "realistic" as possible. Fine. But then they introduce a bad guy with the most cockamamey silly plan you can imagine. The first X-Men film had the same problem. Evapo-rays on bullet trains and Insta-mutant whirligigs. Please.
THE DARK KNIGHT was just about perfect in every way. Marred only by Christian Bale's silly Batman voice. Still mocked by pop culture to this day. And justifiably so.
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES was a bad movie. No excuse for that silliness. Joseph Gordon Levitt was the only watchable part of the movie. One illogical stupid non-sensical scene after another. And I guess Bale didn't want to give up his silly Batman voice, so they had to find a villain with an even stupider voice. This movie wasn't Schumacher bad, but man it was close.
I liked BATMAN BEGINS. Didn't love it. I thought the first half of the movie was excellent, but then it got rather silly. I don't understand the reasoning behind the way so many directors handle super hero movie villains. They're making a live action movie and striving to make it as "realistic" as possible. Fine. But then they introduce a bad guy with the most cockamamey silly plan you can imagine. The first X-Men film had the same problem. Evapo-rays on bullet trains and Insta-mutant whirligigs. Please.
THE DARK KNIGHT was just about perfect in every way. Marred only by Christian Bale's silly Batman voice. Still mocked by pop culture to this day. And justifiably so.
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES was a bad movie. No excuse for that silliness. Joseph Gordon Levitt was the only watchable part of the movie. One illogical stupid non-sensical scene after another. And I guess Bale didn't want to give up his silly Batman voice, so they had to find a villain with an even stupider voice. This movie wasn't Schumacher bad, but man it was close.
Curious why you hated the last one so much. Most people really enjoyed it. I do have to agree with you on one point, the voice they gave to Bane was utterly annoying...difficult to understand, completely unnatural sounding, and it wasn't even menacing sounding, that type of voice would not strike fear in me. I thought it was a pretty great story overall.
The Dark Knight was epic, the only thing that slightly turned me off about it was the brilliantly plotted plans of the Joker and how they took every possible mishap into consideration. Sorry, but it all seemed too perfect, I would have liked to have seen the Joker's plans as a little more realistic, they were bordering on too perfect, but I guess that's what made him such a terrifying villain. And the girl who played Rachel in The Dark Knight...God she was annoying, Maggie Gyllenhal?, I really wish they had gotten Katie Holmes to return. The plot was a little erratic, but it worked.
Batman Begins was excellent, Christian Bale put on a great performance. It was only in that movie that you truly witnessed and felt the depravity of the poverty and disparity of people in Gotham City. I know that was most of its focus, but it was a powerful theme, having to do with Fear and overcoming that, something you really don't think Batman has to deal with. Excellent sequels nonetheless, but Batman Begins still gets my vote, just barely.
Like all three and I'd say Batman Begins is underrated now.
Most people will say The Dark Knight, but I actually prefer The Dark Knight Rises. What hurt The Dark Knight for me was switching from Katie Holmes to Maggie Gyllenhaal. Gyllenhaal is usually the better actress, but that role wasn't for her and it brings down the film for me.
I also prefer Tom Hardy's Bane slightly over Heath Ledger's Joker (which was great acting in its own right).
Anne Hathaway was the cherry on top. I'll watch just about anything she's in. The pacing in the last film was also better than the previous two. I'm a big fan of the ending.
I have to say that this is so difficult a decision that I really can't vote on it.
It's between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight for me. Those are two of the best comic book movies of all time. I really love Marvel's stuff too but...man do I love the first two films in Nolan's trilogy.
Batman Begins was the first movie I saw in theaters that I couldn't get enough of. I went back and saw it numerous times. At the time everything about it was perfect. Only when I saw it recently did I realize there are a few flaws. For one, the pacing is a bit off to me. I would've liked more time spent on the League of Shadows and on Jonathan Crane. And I really didn't buy into the love story at all. I hated the Rachel character and didn't get how she could love Bruce after being such a jerk to him the whole movie, and why he would like her either.
The Dark Knight had its flaws as well. The pacing was much better but the whole boat scene dragged on too long. Of course the Joker was a great villain and I loved how we knew nothing about him. That was the point - he was an agent of chaos...and yes I liked Rachel being killed off. But it's so relentlessly dark the whole time. Batman Begins had more uplifting moments that worked to relieve the tension without being cheesy. Also Two-Face was disappointingly underused.
The Dark Knight Rises was good too but just wasn't at the level of the other two. Bane did not seem that scary and REALLY didn't after the 'twist' was revealed.
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And Talia al Ghul is revealed to just be killed off 2 seconds later in a car accident? Ugh...please.
I did like that the Batman Begins story mattered a lot more to TDKR. It annoyed me that a lot of fanboys went to see The Dark Knight without realizing it was a sequel.
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THE DARK KNIGHT was just about perfect in every way. Marred only by Christian Bale's silly Batman voice. Still mocked by pop culture to this day. And justifiably so.
WHERE'S RACHEL?? lol
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THE DARK KNIGHT RISES was a bad movie. No excuse for that silliness. Joseph Gordon Levitt was the only watchable part of the movie. One illogical stupid non-sensical scene after another. And I guess Bale didn't want to give up his silly Batman voice, so they had to find a villain with an even stupider voice. This movie wasn't Schumacher bad, but man it was close.
Bane was supposed to be Hispanic and I wish they had kept that. Like ColdAilment, I didn't understand the accent they did use very well. I agree that JGL was awesome.
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Batman Begins was excellent, Christian Bale put on a great performance. It was only in that movie that you truly witnessed and felt the depravity of the poverty and disparity of people in Gotham City. I know that was most of its focus, but it was a powerful theme, having to do with Fear and overcoming that, something you really don't think Batman has to deal with.
You nailed it.
Yeah...I still can't decide. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight felt pretty different to me, in both structure and tone. I still think I liked Ra's al Ghul slightly better than the Joker (!) and both were a lot better than Bane.
The Joker was a good break from the typical villians, he had no goals other than to cause chaos (and laugh at it).
I still found that more plausible than Evapo-Rays on bullet trains.
Remember the whole, "Why don't you just shoot him?" schtick from Austin Powers? Someone needs to show that scene to the writers of super hero movies.
R'as al Ghul wants to collapse society, beginning with Gotham City, so he comes up with this elaborate plan to steal an evapo-ray and put it on a bullet train to evaporate all of Gotham's water, all the while infiltrating Gotham's high society with his assassins. Dude, why not just detonate a bomb? Same result. Less hassle.
The Lizard works from a secret laboratory in the sewers so that he can climb the highest building in Manhattan and turn everyone into lizard men. Why? Umm ... not real sure. Maybe he's lonely?
Magneto wants mutants to rule the Earth, so he comes up with an elaborate plan to kidnap a unique mutant, plug her into a giant whirligig that manufactures mutants, install it at the Statue of Liberty, and turn all the UN delegates into mutants. Dude, why not just detonate a bomb? Same result. Less hassle.
Loki wants to the rule the world, so he convinces a bunch of aliens to and their giant flying worms to disturb Manhattan traffic on their flying motorcycles and do some damage to buildings. Dude, even General Zod in his bad disco outfit had the sense to attack Washington D.C.
And Bane's ridiculous plan in the last Batman flick? I'm still not sure I understand all the rigmarole because I was fighting boredom through what seemed like an 8 hour pointless movie. But again: Why not just detonate a bomb? Why the elaborate machinations?
I'm a little afraid the whole setup of the next Avengers or Superman flick is going to involve the bad guy using his Eludium Q-36 space modulator to try to destroy the Earth.
Seriously. A large reason why super hero movies are filmed in live action rather than animation is to lend a certain realism to the story. But then the filmmakers give the villains the most ludicrious cockamammy plans. It's hard enough buying into all the tights and capes, but then we're expected to buy into a bad guy scheme that would embarrass even the most insane Bond villain.
I still found that more plausible than Evapo-Rays on bullet trains.
Remember the whole, "Why don't you just shoot him?" schtick from Austin Powers? Someone needs to show that scene to the writers of super hero movies.
R'as al Ghul wants to collapse society, beginning with Gotham City, so he comes up with this elaborate plan to steal an evapo-ray and put it on a bullet train to evaporate all of Gotham's water, all the while infiltrating Gotham's high society with his assassins. Dude, why not just detonate a bomb? Same result. Less hassle.
The Lizard works from a secret laboratory in the sewers so that he can climb the highest building in Manhattan and turn everyone into lizard men. Why? Umm ... not real sure. Maybe he's lonely?
Magneto wants mutants to rule the Earth, so he comes up with an elaborate plan to kidnap a unique mutant, plug her into a giant whirligig that manufactures mutants, install it at the Statue of Liberty, and turn all the UN delegates into mutants. Dude, why not just detonate a bomb? Same result. Less hassle.
Loki wants to the rule the world, so he convinces a bunch of aliens to and their giant flying worms to disturb Manhattan traffic on their flying motorcycles and do some damage to buildings. Dude, even General Zod in his bad disco outfit had the sense to attack Washington D.C.
And Bane's ridiculous plan in the last Batman flick? I'm still not sure I understand all the rigmarole because I was fighting boredom through what seemed like an 8 hour pointless movie. But again: Why not just detonate a bomb? Why the elaborate machinations?
I'm a little afraid the whole setup of the next Avengers or Superman flick is going to involve the bad guy using his Eludium Q-36 space modulator to try to destroy the Earth.
Seriously. A large reason why super hero movies are filmed in live action rather than animation is to lend a certain realism to the story. But then the filmmakers give the villains the most ludicrious cockamammy plans. It's hard enough buying into all the tights and capes, but then we're expected to buy into a bad guy scheme that would embarrass even the most insane Bond villain.
You really think detonating a bomb would make for a more enjoyable movie? There is a pretty big line between movies and reality. Movies are made to be dramatic, even though sometimes they look and feel realistic, they are anything but. The normal mechanics of practicality go out the window in movies in exchange for the shock, awe, and drama factor.
Maybe I missed this discussion. Was there controversy as to whether the end was just Alfred's dream??? If so, I never thought it was.
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