Harley-Davidson tries to lose its geezer appeal (purchase, mileage, KTM)

[Swampmonster]

Originally Posted by McGowdog

To these folks who have never owned a Harley, I'm not interested in your opinion of which you know nothing about.

But I've got a real Harley... a 74 Iron head... not one of these electric start yuppie bikes.

I have owned several "back in the day" (early 80's up till I smartened up) and maybe you'll listen to me?Pretty please?

Out dated,over priced junk ridden by subdivision guys trying to impress someone and to relive the rebel days they never had.

BTW..Nice bike..the old saying used to be "a half a Harley is better than none..... I guess" for guys that rode sportys .

[RcHydro]

Maybe Harleys next new great idea.

[Swampmonster]

Originally Posted by xsthomas

Maybe Harleys next new great idea.

Kinda cool...as long as they don't start trying to make an airplane...if they do,better get some good insurance on your house roof is all I can say.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

I have zero interest in huge v-twins, regardless of the style. The other thing Harley is: they seem to be the preferred bike of fat people.

Aprilia, Moto Guzzi and Ducati mock your disdain for v-twins.

[catman]

Ducatis are "L-twins" (90 degrees), I think. Moto Guzzis are close to it. I'm not sure what the angle between the cylinders on Aprilias is, but it's a wide V-twin (72 degrees?). Anyway, your point is well taken. The Diavel is my kind of cruiser!

[RcHydro]

They need to get their head out of their so called design azz and come up with something different. All their bikes look the same. New engine design, new frame,something......... chit come up with something. That V-Rod ain't it. Move forward or move over. I guess there gambling on all the baby boomers to retire and buy their bikes.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by catman

Ducatis are "L-twins" (90 degrees), I think. Moto Guzzis are close to it. I'm not sure what the angle between the cylinders on Aprilias is, but it's a wide V-twin (72 degrees?). Anyway, your point is well taken. The Diavel is my kind of cruiser!

Aprilia is 60. Guzzi 90. Victory 50. How could I forget Britten at 60 as well. Britten V1000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[catman]

Thanks. I couldn't recall the V-angle on Aprilia. I hardly ever see one around here.

[whiteboyslo]

Don't forget Suzuki (TLs, SVs, etc) and Honda (RC51, Superhawk, etc)

Mike

[flynavyj]

yes, a V-twin isn't really a detriment to performance, you simply have to know how to build the engine to achieve performance. The typical HD isn't designed for performance, save the V-Rod and what Buell did with the old sportster Evo. But the typical HD (or Japanese HD copy) aren't equipped with performance oriented V-twins...however there are a plethora of bikes out there that are.