08-24-2007, 03:29 PM
Location: Sarasota
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Gressler
Hi There!
I've lived in Whitehall for 4 1/2 yrs and before that was in Silver Star and Waterloo for an additional 5 yrs. I love this valley although Whitehall was never my first choice of where I wanted to live, just where I was finally able to find a great place to buy with a few acres and a house outside of town. I go into town every day (5 miles from here) and it's a quiet but fairly self contained little town. Since I still bank in Twin Bridges I don't actually know very many Whitehall people although I met quite a few when I spent a little time working at the local newspaper when the new owner bought it.
I've never heard anyone in Whitehall bad mouth people moving in from other areas. This area is still lots of ranching and people work hard for what they have. The gold mine is still in operation although not for much longer...end of 2008 I believe. The town went through a bad depressed era after the mine closed the first time and there were lots of homes for sale as people fled the area to find jobs elsewhere. Now there is little to no inventory of homes for sale especially with any acreage. Many people have been moving over this way from the Bozeman area getting away from the crowds and moving back to the country again. They are commuting to Bozeman or Butte to jobs and it hasn't made much of a difference to locals except I think it's helped some of the local economy as some business seem to be doing very well in Whitehall.
Gold West, I have been wondering what happened to the campground at Pipestone. I drive past on my way to Butte every week and it's just sitting there so forlorn looking with no one paying it any attention. Aren't the new owners going to open it for camping again? You used to keep it looking so nice and now it's all overgrown with weeds. I hope they will get it going again.
I believe the grievances of most on this board, pertaining to outsiders moving to the state are from those living in the Bitteroot and Missoula area. That area has been hit hard with people moving in from out of state and same goes now for Bozeman. It is always a problem, I think, for college towns which bring people in from all over and when they like what they see, they want to move there permanently. The thing is, as many people move into the state, almost as many are moving out so it seems to even itself out. The population of the state is still less than a million hence we still only have one congressman!!!
Now, all that said, as much as I love this area and where I live, I am one of the ones looking to relocate out of the state. I'm selling my little spread here in Whitehall and heading to Oregon...if all goes well. I'm starting to feel like I need to move back to a little milder winter climate and also I miss steelhead fishing so as soon as I sell my little piece of paradise I'm gone.
Good luck to all you moving to new environs. This area is a great place to raise kids and the school here isn't bad either. You are within close proximity to Butte and Bozeman for major shopping and get to enjoy the peace and quiet of life in the country without all the hassles that go along with big city living.
Shelly 393 I don't know what's been going on with Borden's of late. When I first moved here it was alive and well and then it abruptly closed. Then it reopened on a lease type thing and quickly closed again. Since then, a few other little restaurants have opened, the Legion Street Grill just down the block and across the street, LN's cafe. Then down at the other end of town, a chinese restaurant which does darn good food for SW Montana!!! (their cooks come from San Francisco so they do a terrific job)...anyway, I think what the Borden's spot needs is someone who really knows what they are doing and provides a good product to the area. I know the girls at the grill are doing a good business. Borden's used to be a good breakfast and lunch spot and with the little movie theater having films on weekends and sometimes mid week in the summer, we need good places to eat. If you know what you're doing, go for it!
Good luck everyone whatever you decide to do.
LFF
08-24-2007, 06:36 PM
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Gold West, I have been wondering what happened to the campground at Pipestone. I drive past on my way to Butte every week and it's just sitting there so forlorn looking with no one paying it any attention. Aren't the new owners going to open it for camping again? You used to keep it looking so nice and now it's all overgrown with weeds. I hope they will get it going again.
Northwestern Energy bought the place! We didn't know until the last minute. They say it will never be open as a campground again. They may some day put about 5 houses there. How Sad.I can't stand to go by the place either.
Sorry to hijack the thread.
08-26-2007, 08:47 AM
Location: Sarasota
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Northwestern Energy bought the place! We didn't know until the last minute. They say it will never be open as a campground again. They may some day put about 5 houses there. How Sad.I can't stand to go by the place either.
Oh Great!! Well, maybe Northwestern Energy will buy my place and turn it into a campground
(kidding) I think it filled a niche that was much needed having a campground in that area right off the interstate. It seemed to always be full in the summertime...wasn't it? That's too bad.
08-29-2007, 08:36 PM
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Thank you sooo much for your reply on Bordons. I am looking forward to comming in and making it a happening place again. We are good people with good ideas and and can do ANYTHING we set our mind to and succeed. Thanks again, Shelly393
11-18-2007, 07:01 AM
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Gressler
Hi There!
Let me and my dog Peaches be the the first ones to say welcome home if you do come back, Whitehall is an awesome town with friendly people, hope you will feel as warm and welcome as me and my family. There are several churches I would suggest; AG or either of the two Baptist will be great, and tell um Terry and Peaches sent you. Welcome Home
11-20-2007, 01:50 AM
Location: Temecula Ca
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I know where Whitefish is, but where the hell is Whitehall?????
11-20-2007, 02:04 AM
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I know where Whitefish is, but where the hell is Whitehall?????
Right along I-90, not quite halfway between Butte and Bozeman.
06-29-2008, 10:16 AM
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Don't be scared, you'll love it!! I was a Californian until I was 13, Then i was a Nevadan for 14, Now I have been a Montanan for 14. My heart will always be a Montanan. Don't let people judge for where you have lived. You are coming home and that is what matters
08-01-2008, 05:21 PM
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Just stopped in Whitehall yesterday for dinner. Had to look hard to find a cafe/restaurant...finally asked someone on the street and got good info. This is a nice (very) small town but doesn't seem to have much going on.
03-15-2009, 05:50 PM
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Hi! I am originally from Montana but have been stuck in Arizona for a couple years now. I am moving back and have been considering buying a business in Whitehall called Bordons.hotel,restaurant and bar. Do you know anything about this place? I am going over to look at it in about two months, but some insite would be helpful. Thanks
I moved from the Phoenix area to whitehall. I looked in to buying Bordens years ago. I bought the Pizza place down the street instead. I am friends with Jim the owner and he has worked hard and struggled. It is a beautiful place with great protential. I know every inch of that bulding and have been in every room. I wish you good luck.. if you happen to buy it. we would surely meet.
Rich. CrzyBear Pizza , Whitehall.MT.
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People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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(kidding) I think it filled a niche that was much needed having a campground in that area right off the interstate. It seemed to always be full in the summertime...wasn't it? That's too bad.
