Marquette vs UWM culture? (Milwaukee, Madison: to rent, houses, law school)

[LittleMathYou]

How do UWM and Marquette differ in culture and how they affect Milwaukee?

[Milwaukee City]

MU is more upscale, high end, preppy, snobby better academics and better sports program. UWM is like the middle child or little brother who doesn't get a lot of support and not a lot of prestige associated with the school. I say this as a UWM Alum. When I went to UWM I thought the school was great, I loved the campus and I enjoyed their sports program but when you are a small mid-major you don't get any national respect or notice. UWM students vs MU student will always have a royalty vs peasants attitude. The Alum for UWM aren't really active and you don't see a lot of donations that are news making.

However in all of this UWM is making strides into the right area. Such they are trying to drop the UW label and just become University of Milwaukee. Bud H was a great athletic director and now is replaced by George Koonce who appears to have his act together and seems to be doing to great job.

MU has law school and a dental program which is a huge advantage over UWM who's best known for it's Architecture program but is moving towards more of a research university.

[milwaukeeproud]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

MU is more upscale, high end, preppy, snobby better academics and better sports program. UWM is like the middle child or little brother who doesn't get a lot of support and not a lot of prestige associated with the school. I say this as a UWM Alum. When I went to UWM I thought the school was great, I loved the campus and I enjoyed their sports program but when you are a small mid-major you don't get any national respect or notice. UWM students vs MU student will always have a royalty vs peasants attitude. The Alum for UWM aren't really active and you don't see a lot of donations that are news making.

Yeah, I think there's more of a UW (Madison) vs Marquette thing going on both statewide and in the city (at least among residents who are from other parts of the state and have no ties to UW-Milwaukee). When it comes down to sports, I'm a Badgers fan and cheer for Marquette to crash and burn every chance they can(or join the big boy schools and get a football program ), but look at schools like UW-Milwaukee and UW-Green Bay and can't help but pull for them (except against Bucky of course). I'm not a UW alum, but I think there's a lot of s*** talking between alums of UW and Marquette about the prestige of each school (sports and non sports). UW-Milwaukee wouldn't even be mentioned in those arguments by the people having them.

[Milwaukee City]

Originally Posted by milwaukeeproud

Yeah, I think there's more of a UW (Madison) vs Marquette thing going on both statewide and in the city (at least among residents who are from other parts of the state and have no ties to UW-Milwaukee). When it comes down to sports, I'm a Badgers fan and cheer for Marquette to crash and burn every chance they can(or join the big boy schools and get a football program ), but look at schools like UW-Milwaukee and UW-Green Bay and can't help but pull for them (except against Bucky of course). I'm not a UW alum, but I think there's a lot of s*** talking between alums of UW and Marquette about the prestige of each school (sports and non sports). UW-Milwaukee wouldn't even be mentioned in those arguments by the people having them.

+2!

I agree completely. UWM has the student base and Alum but they need to raise the level of prestige and sports. One way to make a huge jump would be if George Koonce somehow was able to bring D1 football to Milwaukee and move The University of Milwaukee into a bigger conference such as the Missouri Valley.

[riverwest.sol]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

MU is more upscale, high end, preppy, snobby better academics and better sports program. UWM is like the middle child or little brother who doesn't get a lot of support and not a lot of prestige associated with the school. I say this as a UWM Alum. When I went to UWM I thought the school was great, I loved the campus and I enjoyed their sports program but when you are a small mid-major you don't get any national respect or notice. UWM students vs MU student will always have a royalty vs peasants attitude. The Alum for UWM aren't really active and you don't see a lot of donations that are news making.

However in all of this UWM is making strides into the right area. Such they are trying to drop the UW label and just become University of Milwaukee. Bud H was a great athletic director and now is replaced by George Koonce who appears to have his act together and seems to be doing to great job.

MU has law school and a dental program which is a huge advantage over UWM who's best known for it's Architecture program but is moving towards more of a research university.

True, but I still have to say UWM has more of a presence in the community (although both could be doing MUCH better in that dept) if for no other reason that more of them actually stick around after graduation. Most MU students come from the Chicago suburbs and just see Milwaukee as somewhere nearby to go to school for a few years... much in the same way they look at Urbana-Champaign or South Bend. Plus, for all the hype MU gets around Milwaukee, it suffers from a "safety school" stigma as most of its students who aren't there for Law, Dentistry or Journalism only chose it because they couldn't get into Notre Dame.

UWM suffers from its own "that OTHER Wisconsin school" complex, but it's been working at finding it's niches as it makes the transition from a commuter campus to a research institution. The Architecture program is pretty well known, and it's becoming one of the world leaders in the field of freshwater studies. It's also one of only three schools in the entire country with an Africology dept... my reason for staying home to go to college.

And the sooner they drop "Wisconsin" from the school's name, the better. I've already taken the initiative to start calling it the University of Milwaukee in situations where I know I'll likely have to spend the next 5 minutes explaining that I'm not a Badger and I don't know why Wisconsin's politicans thought it'd be a good idea to have a dozen schools with the same name.

As far as how they affect Milwaukee's culture... Marquette has always seemed to exist in its own bubble. Maybe it has more of a presence in business and (obviously) law circles, but aside from basketball games, I rarely ever see it affecting anyone without direct ties to the school. UWM, on the other hand, has been the catalyist for the more "collegiate" atmosphere on the eastside (and the city as a whole) has been taking on for just under a decade now... much to the chagrin of the older generations.

[#Littledog]

Ok, I'll take the biased, MU alum stance. I graduated in '92 and I have only great things to say about MU. The rich kid from Chicago stereotype is overblown. Sure, that could describe SOME of the students but overall the student body was very diverse. MU has a fantastic scholarship program that draws students from all income levels. Demographically, students were from the east coast, south, midwest and other countries (west coast-not so much).

As far as community support, MU wins awards for student volunteering. Jesuits typically build their universities in impovershed areas of town. The core principles of Catholocism are to serve others through good works. I truly believe MU has done so much for the surrounding community through it's public safety programs, renovating old, decrepit buildings for lower income people to rent/own, and offering many student volunteer programs to help individuals within the community. Myself and many other students lived out this mission every day through donations, helping out at woman's shelters, homeless shelters, delivering sandwiches to the homeless, providing free child care, etc. MU has programs in the summer for lower income high school students to boost their academics and prepare for college. I could go on and on. The MU website will give you more info.

I think UWM is a great school, but I think comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. To be honest, the only things in common about UWM and MU is that they are both colleges in Milwaukee. MU is a Catholic school. The culture is going to feel different than a gov't-run university. Not better or worse, just different. I think it's safe to say MU leans more conservative and UWN more liberal/socialist.

It's ironic that people think MU is this posh, elite college compared to UWM. I'm from out of state so I had no preconceived notions about either school. At MU, we hung out at dive bars on campus. Drinking Red, White, and Blue beer at the Lanch, shoes sticking on the floor, and naked beer slides 2 feet away was a typical Sat night occurance. Oh, did I mention the locals panhandling in the alley outside? Or the gun shots that could be heard a block over from our house party? The first time I went to the "fashionable east side" with the beautiful houses, culture, and sleek North Ave bars, the first thing that came to my mind was the UWM kids had it soooo easy!!! I guess it all depends on your perspective!

To the original poster, what is your primary question about the differences with the two schools? Is your question about student life, academic programs, name recognition, sports, campus safety, ????

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