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The term “veteran” means "a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable."
The term “active military, naval, or air service” includes— "(A) active duty; (B) any period of active duty for training during which the individual concerned was disabled or died from a disease or injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty; and (C) any period of inactive duty training during which the individual concerned was disabled or died— (i) from an injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty; or (ii) from an acute myocardial infarction, a cardiac arrest, or a cerebrovascular accident occurring during such training."
38 USC § 101(24)
The term “active duty” means—
"(A)full-time duty in the Armed Forces, other than active duty for training;
(B)full-time duty (other than for training purposes) as a commissioned officer of the Regular or Reserve Corps of the Public Health Service;
(C)full-time duty as a commissioned officer of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration; and
(D)full-time duty as a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, United States Naval Academy, United States Air Force Academy, or the United States Coast Guard Academy."
Unlike OCS or ROTC officer candidates/cadets, service academy cadets and midshipmen are considered full active duty as opposed to active duty for training.
Thus, unless I missed another section of U.S. code that would further delineate things, the guy seems to be a veteran.
A better description might be “con man” despite the description above.
I'm torn on the issue.
Part of me feels that the person is a con to claim veteran status for the reason posited in the OP.
Another part of me feel that, notwithstanding that the person didn't complete the full four year tour at the Academy, the law says the person is a veteran, so who am I to judge?
Yet another part of me can argue for giving this person the full respect and credit of a veteran, even outside of the technical definition. Indeed, this person spent two years undertaking an important mission/tour (that of developing officers to lead the military). The fact that the person didn't finish the mission/tour (and not every service member will finish every mission/tour they are sent to complete, but that still doesn't mean that they didn't serve) does not take away from this.
I know that two years in the academy are a pretty tough two years but I’d be curious to know what happened to him. I thought that if you didn’t complete one of the academies, there were various payback clauses?
I know that two years in the academy are a pretty tough two years but I’d be curious to know what happened to him. I thought that if you didn’t complete one of the academies, there were various payback clauses?
His excuse was - Airforce changed their pilot program so he decided not to go any further. Truth be told I am not sure he even finished 2nd year. I kind of call BS myself to that excuse
But he always says "Well when I was in the Airforce Academy" never ever tells people he didn't graduate.
His excuse was - Airforce changed their pilot program so he decided not to go any further. Truth be told I am not sure he even finished 2nd year. I kind of call BS myself to that excuse
But he always says "Well when I was in the Airforce Academy" never ever tells people he didn't graduate.
Most kids seem to work so hard to get into any of the academies that unless there’s a major issues such as health limitations, I just don’t see someone leaving at the drop of a hat. Plus, I suspect that no one gets promised a pilot’s slot until late in the Academy program. Sure, there are airmanship programs to fly small aircraft but my guess is that there are no guarantees beyond that.
We’ll likely never know and, it’s probably none of our business anyway. Kind of interesting to speculate on the ole interwebs though!
Ona side note, the only academy graduate I’m associated with today is a young man who rides with us on our Saturday morning cycling rides when he and his girlfriend are in town visiting her family. At 61, I can still drop everyone in our club simply because I ride a fast recumbent which is much more aero than any diamond frame bike. On the flats, 29-30 is their top end....and I can squeeze out 31-32 for a short distance.
Not this young man. He sticks to my wheel like glue and then comes around as I run outta steam. Kid is very well-built and squared away. If the rest of the grads are like this guy, the USAF is in damn good hands.
I know this is minor but boy did this get under my skin(I am a child of WW2 vet) and I have to ask other's opinion.
Air force Academy drop out (only went 2 years). Never enlisted, never deployed, never served
Gets a free lunch for Veteran Day and now he thinks he is a Veteran
Is he a Veteran?
Don't worry about it. If everyone showing up for their free Veteran's Day meal had to provide proof beyond wearing some cap they bought off Amazon, the place may very well be empty. At least this person actually set foot in a military environment; many fake the whole thing.
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