[magellan]

Michigan's most recent unemployment rate dropped to 9.8%, the lowest it's been since Nov 08. It also sits below 7 other "large" employment states like California, NC, SC, Georgia, Florida and Nevada.

Table 3. Civilian labor force and unemployment by state and selected area, seasonally adjusted


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[michigan83]

Well, one of the first negative comments we will see is "yeah, but the unemployment rate doesn't include the TRUE number of people who are unemployed, because many have given up on looking for work."

Riiiight.... As if that isn't the case in the 49 other states, too. They calculate the unemployment rate in the same fashion for every state. The important point is that we are improving, relative to other states. Not that things are perfect here.

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[313Weather]

Originally Posted by michigan83

Well, one of the first negative comments we will see is "yeah, but the unemployment rate doesn't include the TRUE number of people who are unemployed, because many have given up on looking for work."

Riiiight.... As if that isn't the case in the 49 other states, too. They calculate the unemployment rate in the same fashion for every state. The important point is that we are improving, relative to other states. Not that things are perfect here.

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Didn't Snyder just throw off thousands of people from the unemployment dole when he ended the extensions?

Yeah, people losing their only source of income in an environment scarce of jobs is a HUGE improvement alright!!!

The employment rate and labor participation numbers (which have been stagnant) will show the true number. I only deal with facts, but if that's considering "trolling" and makes me a bad person then so be it.

BTW, I also don't buy the drop from 9% to 8.6% for the national rate either, especially considering when only 120,000 jobs were created (it doesn't add up).

[jwcd09]

Originally Posted by 313Weather

Didn't Snyder just throw off thousands of people from the unemployment dole when he ended the extensions?

Yeah, people losing their only source of income in an environment scarce of jobs is a HUGE improvement alright!!!

The employment rate and labor participation numbers (which have been stagnant) will show the true number. I only deal with facts, but if that's considering "trolling" and makes me a bad person then so be it.

BTW, I also don't buy the drop from 9% to 8.6% for the national rate either, especially considering when only 120,000 jobs were created (it doesn't add up).

Which extensions did he end?

[Nephler]

Opportunities for work do seem to be growing. In quite a few areas business is starting to pick up. But, I think part of the unemployment rate decrease is in part due to so many people leaving, or have left, the state, hence less people unemployed.

[djmilf]

Originally Posted by jwcd09

Which extensions did he end?

The Republican-controlled Michigan state government tried to end public assistance for those who had been collecting it for over four years or longer, but that was blocked by the courts - the judge ruled that the people losing their welfare checks weren't given enough warning by the state government.

If it hadn't been blocked by the judge, ending public assistance for people might have slightly increased the unemployment rate, not reduced it.

[jwcd09]

Originally Posted by djmilf

The Republican-controlled Michigan state government tried to end public assistance for those who had been collecting it for over four years or longer, but that was blocked by the courts - the judge ruled that the people losing their welfare checks weren't given enough warning by the state government.

If it hadn't been blocked by the judge, ending public assistance for people might have slightly increased the unemployment rate, not reduced it.

I see. The guy who I quoted above made it sound as if Snyder ended som of the unemployment extensions or something.

I believe there are still 4 tiers available in Michigan?

[313Weather]

Originally Posted by djmilf

The Republican-controlled Michigan state government tried to end public assistance for those who had been collecting it for over four years or longer, but that was blocked by the courts - the judge ruled that the people losing their welfare checks weren't given enough warning by the state government.

If it hadn't been blocked by the judge, ending public assistance for people might have slightly increased the unemployment rate, not reduced it.

Actually, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

[jwcd09]

Originally Posted by 313Weather

Actually, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Please explain.

[djmilf]

Oh, the Michigan state government also shortened the length of unemployment benefits in Michigan from 26 weeks to 20 weeks for new cases starting in 2012. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/us...9michigan.html

But that might not be what 313Weather was talking about, because that action couldn't have caused unemployment to drop in 2011.