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Old 09-26-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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I think the Oasis at Sawgrass has been hit hard by the recession. People with disposable income for oversized portions of overpriced food in pseudo luxury settings are cutting back and this is evident in many areas where these restuarants competed and clustered amongst one another, think survival of the fittest. Cheesecake must be more popular?

Re Aventura: The movies have had this problem for years, so it is nothing new. Before it was the 163rd St Mall that had these issues and then it closed after Aventura opened and stole it's thunder, combined with a demographic shift in NMB.

In general, teens go to the movies on weekends and weeknights, and this is evident everywhere: Dolphin, Sunset Place, Main St. in Miami Lakes and Aventura. The difference is in a place like Dolphin or Sunset, you have teens from middle class backgrounds that are somewhat more well behaved. Compare that to Aventura where you have many teens from lower income families that idolize the hip hop, thug and pimp culture, and come dressing the part....and tend to be rowdy, this makes some people more uncomfortable.

I don't know that Aventura could do anything to prevent melees or issues at these times. This is their demographic based on location. The theater is filled with teens so it is mad money and highly profitable for them. They have private security, mall security, off duty cops, on duty cops, so they do what they can within reason. Other than that, avoid movie theaters in general at that time because they won't be quiet places for couple or older folks.
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Old 09-27-2010, 07:15 AM
 
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i went there 3 weeks ago, it is definitely the biggest and the nicest mall in Miami .
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:57 AM
 
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Then the place must be a dump.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:38 AM
 
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Chelito please, hit by recession? Your posts are usually very accurate but when it comes to businesses you seem to think that everything is closing tomorrow. Just try going to other cities in Florida(Orlando might be the exception not sure) and you will see what slow businesses look like. It's so bad that I even got asked once if was from Miami, when I asked how did they know, they said only miamiams make big purchases

aventura is still a nice mall, the ghetto crowd you see Sometimes in some malls is typical of big city in the NE or south. If people don't want to see these kind of people then they need to move West, to the whiter areas of the US or to a retirement town full of older white people where teens are nonexistent. . This is the south and technically a border city so black & Hispanic teens are unavoidable.
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Lovely swampy humid Miami!
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i heard they were norwegians and not locals from aventura.

But those kids weren't. As far as the story, goes they were followers of thor, literally speaking - on of them had a "hail thor" t-shirt.


This is TERRIBLE!!! We must rise up and do something to defend ourselves from THE IMPENDING THREAT OF ANGRY NORWEGIAN GANGS!! Oh!! the humanity!! THOR LOOKED DOWN AND WEPT!!!
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:08 AM
 
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Chelito please, hit by recession? Your posts are usually very accurate but when it comes to businesses you seem to think that everything is closing tomorrow. Just try going to other cities in Florida(Orlando might be the exception not sure) and you will see what slow businesses look like. It's so bad that I even got asked once if was from Miami, when I asked how did they know, they said only miamiams make big purchases

aventura is still a nice mall, the ghetto crowd you see Sometimes in some malls is typical of big city in the NE or south. If people don't want to see these kind of people then they need to move West, to the whiter areas of the US or to a retirement town full of older white people where teens are nonexistent. . This is the south and technically a border city so black & Hispanic teens are unavoidable.
Princess, are you kidding me? You don't think South Florida has been hit hard by the recession? HELLO!!! Look at unemployment, lack of construction jobs...and yes, many businesses have closed. Oasis is an example of an over abundance of similar, over priced places that cater to the yester years over spenders. I am sure there are still fools a dime a dozen from Miami that blow their money in Orlando still, it's a big city, there are always people with money, just not the same amount as in the early 2000s-but that is not what this thread is about. It is that people have been forced to cut back, and yes, here in South Florida too due to the economy. And this is why businesses have cut back and closed locally.

And melee's are not in all malls in the south and east either. They are usually in lower class malls that cater to lower income, so it is shocking to some people for that to happen at upscale Aventura.
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:27 AM
 
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Princess, are you kidding me? You don't think South Florida has been hit hard by the recession? HELLO!!! Look at unemployment, lack of construction jobs...and yes, many businesses have closed. Oasis is an example of an over abundance of similar, over priced places that cater to the yester years over spenders. I am sure there are still fools a dime a dozen from Miami that blow their money in Orlando still, it's a big city, there are always people with money, just not the same amount as in the early 2000s-but that is not what this thread is about. It is that people have been forced to cut back, and yes, here in South Florida too due to the economy. And this is why businesses have cut back and closed locally.

And melee's are not in all malls in the south and east either. They are usually in lower class malls that cater to lower income, so it is shocking to some people for that to happen at upscale Aventura.
Good and accurate post .
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:48 AM
 
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Ok I thought you were talking about Sawgrass in general. Businesses come and go especially with a recession but many are doing ok and even growing. it's no secret that people are buying cheaper brands now days and also that some jobs in specific industries are gone for good. Nothing that has never happened in the past.

And those fools that blow their money, they contribute more to the economy than those than save their money in the banks.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:31 PM
 
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Princess,

The fools blowing their money are not helping the economy because they are charging their plasma tv's on over used credit cards with outrageous interest rates. Basically, people are spending money they don't really even have and go into debt because of it. An economy propped up by credit and sponsored by consumers with so much debt is artificial and that is part of why we had this crash.

People making sound investments, not speculating, and SAVING UP in order to make a big purchase helps the economy vs. the immediate gratification and charging something they don't really need or can't afford because they are about to be laid off. Fortunately, this behavior has been cut back greatly from what it once was, but I have a feeling when things turn around, we will go back to out irresponsible spending of years past.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:33 PM
 
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is it all outdoors? And are there alot of restaurants?
it is enclosed mega-mall, was a favorite of paris hilton, michael jackson-and used to have good food restaurants ( although pricey). It is one of the featured signature south florida malls for cruising and people-watching-very nice around christmas time decorated.
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