10-21-2007, 02:16 AM
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I'm retiring next year after a career as an east-coast law enforcement officer. I've been contemplating and researching moving to Maui for my retirement. The mortgage on my house will be paid off in 2009 and I'll be receiving a government pension around $60,000 in addition to various other investment income. So financially, I'm not too worried about things. I'm single with no dependants.
My question basically involves how transplanted retirees in their early 50s are looked upon in the job market. I've been a scuba instructor for years and wouldn't think that I would have a problem landing a job with one of the many dive operators as long as there really isn't any overt discrimination by age. During my many trips to Maui, however, it always seemed as though the vast majority of the employees in most of these service oriented jobs are quite young. I can't help to wonder if this is because of the amount of young people who move to Maui temporarily vastly outnumbers the amount of retirees out there.
Do any of you think it will be difficult to land such a part-time job as a retiree from the mainland? I also do some traffic crash reconstruction consulting on the side and due to several factors I don't think I'll have any problem landing that type of work on Maui.
Also, how's the social climate for the 50+ crowd on Maui? Is there a decent amount of people in that age group on the island, or do most of them leave for the mainland before they reach retirement age?
10-21-2007, 04:27 AM
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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Isn't working retiree a bit of a contradiction? Anyways, I doubt if you'll have any problem finding work, even with perhaps the MPD, many of their new guys end up working on the mainland, lower cost of living, better pay. And isn't 50 the new thirty? That makes me, oh.. 35 and change........
Aloha and best of luck
03-20-2009, 08:40 PM
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I/we kind of fit your description. Except for the looking-for-PT-work part. (We're the kind who are REALLY retired.) But we came over in our mid-late 40s and are now -- by Jungjohann's calculation -- in our mid-late 30s.
Seems to me that people really don't discriminate so much against middle-aged people here -- especially for diving and other sports that are more fitness-oriented, or experience-oriented. Most of the dive instructors I see at our local park are middle-aged. (Don't know so much about the dive boat business.) I think the snorkel/whalewatch boat business is mostly a younger thing, but I have good friends on several boats who are from their late 30s to late 50s.
Overall, the age thing is a real mash-up, too. Almost 20s/50s/70s tiers, with younger kids doing the service thing, a few early retirees, and lots of people who retired here a long time ago. It's always hard to meet people in a new place if you're not working, but we mustered a reasonable group of acquaintances in our first couple of years and now (8 years later) have a solid base of lifetime friends here. Like any smallish place, you gravitate to people with your interests and expand from there. Lots of interesting people on Maui, trust me.
03-22-2009, 07:10 AM
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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I'm retiring next year after a career as an east-coast law enforcement officer. I've been contemplating and researching moving to Maui for my retirement. The mortgage on my house will be paid off in 2009 and I'll be receiving a government pension around $60,000 in addition to various other investment income. So financially, I'm not too worried about things. I'm single with no dependants.
My question basically involves how transplanted retirees in their early 50s are looked upon in the job market. I've been a scuba instructor for years and wouldn't think that I would have a problem landing a job with one of the many dive operators as long as there really isn't any overt discrimination by age. During my many trips to Maui, however, it always seemed as though the vast majority of the employees in most of these service oriented jobs are quite young. I can't help to wonder if this is because of the amount of young people who move to Maui temporarily vastly outnumbers the amount of retirees out there.
Do any of you think it will be difficult to land such a part-time job as a retiree from the mainland? I also do some traffic crash reconstruction consulting on the side and due to several factors I don't think I'll have any problem landing that type of work on Maui.
Also, how's the social climate for the 50+ crowd on Maui? Is there a decent amount of people in that age group on the island, or do most of them leave for the mainland before they reach retirement age?
You may want to contact some of the local PD's directly - I did recently see that the Hilo District was hiring several additional patrol officers although that is not Maui. There may be some consulting opportunities available. You never know unless you inquire.
03-22-2009, 01:08 PM
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Congrats to you! Don't you have a limit on the number of hours you can work to still collect your pension? I know it's that way with some I know retired from law enforcement here in California -- I'd think that MPD would love to have your experience a couple of days a week, or an insurance company for investigations, or perhaps even...is there an Academy in Hawaii somewhere? And I'd also think the biz owners there would love your dependability -- they'd know you'd show up for work! And that they don't have to worry about you doing anything that crosses the line legally....I'd think you'd be highly desired! And just get active with the community to meet folks! Good for you --
I'd love to hear what you decide and how it makes out!
05-21-2012, 05:32 PM
Location: Newport Beach
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Hi, I am TroicalMauiGirl,
You know 50 years old is only in your head. yes I suppose they look at age but they really can't. Being that you have the background you have I really think you would be an asset to any service program they had. Remember all of Maui's scuba,Fishing etc... are Tourist oriented and they need people they can trust. I would send off letters to all the scuba companies and just ask, see what they say before you decide. Hey, I am in the same boat as you, I will be going to Maui to retire soon as well, I LOVE Maui, I had 4 houses there and of all the places I went I loved Maui the most. It is where I want to live the rest of my life. If you ever need a hand over there, I am into all water sports and very athletic. I love the weather, sunsets and just the Locals are really nice and laid back. I have never met a mean person there. I wanted to sell time shares over there being that my industry has been in finance. I have been thinking about doing this too very soon. Maybe we can touch base and chat about it with the Pro's and Con's. My Name is KellySue
05-21-2012, 05:41 PM
Location: Kahala
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TropicalMauiGirl - I suspect since the original poster hasn't been here in almost 5 years on this forum - and posted exactly 1 time - it isn't likely we'll hear from him.
06-06-2012, 02:07 PM
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Good for you brother, I'm retiring California Corrections in Oct, 2012 and have been planning the same move. My wife just got her R.N. and as far as part time work for me is concerned, I'm not the least bit worried. I'm not a dive instructor, but am rescue certified, and plan on doing anything that looks like fun. Seriously, after 20 years locked up with a bunch of california's finest, the last thing I want to wear to work is a badge. Thinking more along the lines of my Sanuks, and a T-shirt as required clothing.
I have to agree that just having a background of showing up everyday for an entire career and getting out with your health and more importantly, your humanity in tact is something many future employers would LOVE to see walk through their door. I was just telling my wife yesterday while looking through the jobs on Craigslist in Maui how I couldn't wait to go interview...lol. I mean how can you not hire someone who just can't wait to do the job? Who wakes up grinning everyday like he just hit the lotto? And doesn't need to make a grip of money to get by cause he's already getting a pension? I'm thinking if he's not a fat slob, and better yet if he or she is youthfully fit, that they go straight to the top of my hiring list. Anyway, just my two cents, I'm months away, not a care in the world about finding work or meeting friends, I/we can't wait! See you in October!
06-06-2012, 02:56 PM
Location: Volcano
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I mean how can you not hire someone who just can't wait to do the job? Who wakes up grinning everyday like he just hit the lotto? And doesn't need to make a grip of money to get by cause he's already getting a pension?
I know that sounds logical to you, but honestly, Hawai'i is different.
Not everywhere, but to a degree I have never seen elsewhere, employment in Hawai'i is determined less on attitude than on ohana... the concept of extended family that permeates Hawaiian culture. Ohana, by name, is even featured as a provision of Hawaian real estate law.
What it means, from a practical viewpoint, is that in many cases jobs are filled on the basis of relationship over experience or training or any of the other usual criteria. Who your Auntie is turns out to carry more weight, in general, than what your resume looks like.
Then you have to recognize that until you've lived in the islands for a couple of years you'll be considered kind of a temporary worker, since so many people give up and go back to the mainland within that timeframe, so why hire you when Tita Filona has a grandson who needs a regular gig now that his girlfriend is pregganun?
Not meaning to discourage you with this, just hoping to align you a little better with reality. At least with a decent pension you can hang out with unemployment longer than most.
06-06-2012, 06:10 PM
Location: Oahu
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My wife just got her R.N.
Which places her squarely on the bottom of the hiring preferences regarding nurses in the state of Hawaii. New grad RN + malihini = no hire.
Again, a nursing license is no longer the golden ticket to employment anywhere in the US but especially in Hawaii. All islands, all hospitals.
As Open D spoke about, any new grad position is going to go straight to the daughter, son, niece, nephew, grandchild or in-any-other-way-connected-to-someone-who-has-influence new grad nurse.
I personally know many LOCAL new grad RN's who graduated six months or more ago who consider themselves very lucky to have snagged jobs as nurses' aides or ward clerks with the hopes that it will lead them into RN positions. Some finally give up and take any new grad position on the mainland that will give them some RN experience that they can bring back with them and will give them a better chance at getting a position here....eventually.
This has been going on for at least a few years now and I do see some of them coming back home with some good experience to put on their resumes.
So the chances of a new grad from the mainland beating out any of the locals here for an RN position are pretty much non-existant.
But you've got that pension going for you so that's a definite plus!
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Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)