Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-13-2008, 10:59 AM
 
1,297 posts, read 5,516,619 times
Reputation: 572

Advertisements

That petition is worthless and actually counterproductive.


Demand in the U.S. is down right now. Supply is 100% available and the producing refineries are not at full capacity. The price of oil is currently being "played" in the commodities market, similar to the long line of other industries, Tech, housing, etc

You are being duped into the hands of special interest looking to open up exploration and production in Alaska and off certain Coasts in the U.S. They want you to think that Alaska & offshore oil will lower U.S. gas prices..which is a joke.

The oil produced at those sites will go directly to the markets willing to pay the most. Currently, that is not the U.S.. We've got a ways to go.

Profit Maximization anyone?
That's a key end word that is not discussed with the general public.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-13-2008, 11:01 AM
 
Location: South Bay
7,226 posts, read 22,237,968 times
Reputation: 3627
what most surprises me is that it took this long for the oil companies to realize that they could get away with charging this much.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 11:04 AM
 
Location: southern california
61,286 posts, read 87,588,293 times
Reputation: 55564
americans are slow to react to change. but i am seeing it.
less traffic on the road and bicycle sales are up. the world revolves around our
wallet americans are beginning to close up the wallet a little.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 12:31 PM
 
1,786 posts, read 6,909,593 times
Reputation: 1757
Quote:
Originally Posted by greggd View Post
You are being duped into the hands of special interest looking to open up exploration and production in Alaska and off certain Coasts in the U.S. They want you to think that Alaska & offshore oil will lower U.S. gas prices..which is a joke.
Although I agree that drilling in Alaska and off the coast wouldn't have a significant impact on fuel costs, I'm not duped at all. We are overly dependent on foreign countries for the vast majority of our oil. And these countries are in a pretty volatile area of the globe. How much oil do we have in Alaska? I honestly don't know. I read a 40-year supply someplace.

So, my assertion doesn't go to whining about the gas prices, it goes toward weening the US of a total dependence on foreign oil.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 12:35 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
11,431 posts, read 19,038,030 times
Reputation: 5224
Quote:
Originally Posted by LAAngel2008 View Post
Are you tired of paying 4.50 and feel something should be done.the following link will take you to sean hannity where you can sign a petition that will be presented to congress to demand that we drill for our own oil in Alaska,California,Florida, and Nebraska and quit giving our money to middle eastern dictatorships that want to kill us.Quit complaning about the high price of gas and do something by signing this petition

American Solutions - Petitions
Ditch the gas guzzling SUVs too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 12:55 PM
 
Location: So Cal
52,395 posts, read 52,888,780 times
Reputation: 52888
Default Technology advances needed

I remember watching a documentary about cars and oil etc., anyway it showed how back in the 70's there were cars invented that could get a 100 mpg. The oil companies come along and buy up the patents and basically put them in a safe. That has been happening for years. Also why do you think there not building any additional refining capacity. It's basically supply and demand. Keep supply on the low side and prices go up. Not rocket science. It enrages the sh*t out of me. Iraq war aside, we need to get the f out of the middle east. If they want to live like it's the 12 century have at it. I could give two sh*ts about whether we can democratize them. They seem to like living under dictatorships other wise they would have rebelled along time ago. Anyway just my humble opinion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 01:02 PM
 
Location: South Bay
7,226 posts, read 22,237,968 times
Reputation: 3627
Who Killed the Electric Car? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 01:16 PM
 
9,855 posts, read 15,231,126 times
Reputation: 5481
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehotex View Post
Ditch the gas guzzling SUVs too.
It blows me away that people driving trucks and SUVs complain about gas prices.

Unless you work construction, and need a truck, don't complain about the cost of filling up your F150's tank. Personally, I live 13 miles from my job and am going to start bicycling there and back every day. It will take a little longer, but after a few weeks I will be in great shape, and I will only have to fill up my tank once a month, at the most.

Why is drilling in Alaska the immediate answer? check out cape wind. The project is 130 wind turbines out in the ocean, which produces enough energy for about 200,000 homes. Instead of building up an oil infrastructure which will most likely be useless when oil runs out 100 years from now, why not build up something like this?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 04:00 PM
 
1,297 posts, read 5,516,619 times
Reputation: 572
Quote:
Originally Posted by hnsq View Post
It blows me away that people driving trucks and SUVs complain about gas prices.

Unless you work construction, and need a truck, don't complain about the cost of filling up your F150's tank. Personally, I live 13 miles from my job and am going to start bicycling there and back every day. It will take a little longer, but after a few weeks I will be in great shape, and I will only have to fill up my tank once a month, at the most.

Why is drilling in Alaska the immediate answer? check out cape wind. The project is 130 wind turbines out in the ocean, which produces enough energy for about 200,000 homes. Instead of building up an oil infrastructure which will most likely be useless when oil runs out 100 years from now, why not build up something like this?
Good point. I'd rather see U.S. co's producing oil in other Countries rather than importing from other countries.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2008, 04:03 PM
 
1,297 posts, read 5,516,619 times
Reputation: 572
Quote:
Originally Posted by JTGJR View Post
Although I agree that drilling in Alaska and off the coast wouldn't have a significant impact on fuel costs, I'm not duped at all. We are overly dependent on foreign countries for the vast majority of our oil. And these countries are in a pretty volatile area of the globe. How much oil do we have in Alaska? I honestly don't know. I read a 40-year supply someplace.

So, my assertion doesn't go to whining about the gas prices, it goes toward weening the US of a total dependence on foreign oil.
I agree with you. My comment was directed toward the original poster. U.S. exploration will not reduce U.S. prices of gas. It will simply increase revenue of
US. Co's investing in this venture and export the oil.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2022 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top