The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (San Diego, Brentwood: cinema, upkeep, cost of living)

[BlinkingBlythe]

Originally Posted by slackercruster

Yes, working, having a purpose, a bed and decent food can help.

But farm work is very hard. I don't think the homeless can work as hard as an illegal. It may take 3 or 4 homeless to = 1 illegal. But L.A. and San Fran should have enuf homeless to make a good effort at food picking.

I think it may be a good idea to round up all the homeless and relocate them to 29 Palms, CA.

NYC was working on shipping homeless to Staten Island.

Plan for new homeless shelters on Staten Island already causes concern | SILive.com

Notice the NIMBYs (and likely some NOPEs) are already hard at work here......

You guys got lots of desert just sitting in CA, make it a paradise for the homeless!

There are NIMBY/NOPEs there too.

[BlinkingBlythe]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Being homeless isn’t a crime .. but the homeless commit a lot of crime .

Some of the hardcore homeless advocates that happen to not live in L.A keep telling us the homeless don’t commit serious crime .

I would consider robbery , grand theft auto , aggravated assault and burglary serious crimes . Wouldn’t you .

6,400 homeless arrested for those crimes ? That’s a high percentage considering there’s about 55,000 homeless in L.A .
Wow!

We’ve been lied to over and over again by the homeless advocates that the homeless are all harmless.
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And you have proof of even one homeless advocate ever saying that, and his/her name is ___________________?

The report said LAPD officers made 14,500 misdemeanor arrests of homeless people in 2017, a 10% jump from the year before. It attributed the increase in part to crackdowns on "quality of life" violations barring sleeping and storing personal property on sidewalks. Trespassing and nonviolent drug possession arrests also rose, the report said.
About 6,400 homeless people were arrested on felony charges, including robbery, grand theft auto, aggravated assault and burglary, the report said.

LAPD defends rising arrests of homeless people

The reason for all of these arrests are simple: The homeless are the easiest group to target. Much better for the cops to go after them then say, a gangbanger, because the cop has a much higher chance of coming back home that night.

Houses also make excellent death traps to use against law-enforcement.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

Wow, didn't know that the homeless commit that amount of crime in LA County.
I swear someone around here was trying to argue that they didn't commit more crimes than non-homeless people.
Hmmmmmm.

Did you bother to check and see 'what' all those homeless people were arrested for? I didn't think so...

Huge increase in arrests of homeless in L.A. — but mostly for minor offenses

• Times analysis of police data shows. And the most common offense — the one Segovia was arrested for — was failure to appear in court for an unpaid citation.
• A spokesman for the LAPD, whose officers made 90% of the city's homeless arrests in 2016, said that methodology inflated the number because people who simply refused to give officers an address were also labeled as transient.
• Segovia, who sells his artwork on the Venice boardwalk, has received as many as a dozen tickets, his lawyer said — mostly for sleeping, smoking and letting his artwork spill out of his boardwalk vendor space — and has gone to court five times to clear his record. He rolls his eyes at his multiple treks through the legal system.
• The city scaled back some punitive measures. In 2014, City Atty. Mike Feuer asked the LAPD to reduce quality-of-life citations from misdemeanors, which can draw jail time, to infractions. But police continued to hand out misdemeanor tickets to homeless people like Robert L. Smith, who was cited in July 2016 for illegal possession of a Target shopping cart.

From a source referenced in the linked article:
http://milliondollarhoods.org/wp-con...2.0.FINAL_.pdf

So I guess what it comes down to is whether or not you consider failure to appear on a ticket a criminal act, pushing a target shopping cart down the street or smoking on the sidewalk are really criminal acts that should result in people being sent to jail.

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by BlinkingBlythe

Notice the NIMBYs (and likely some NOPEs) are already hard at work here......



There are NIMBY/NOPEs there too.

I like how they just talk about "Send them there! In the desert where they'll have paradise".

Like if the homeless are just a heard of cattle and not human beings lol..

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

I remember asking one of these illegal alien lobbyist about crime from illegal aliens and was told in a firm reply, "They do not commit more crimes than normal citizens."

I hear that lie over and over “Sanctuary cities are safer”

It’s because they are including low violent crime areas like Brentwood , West L.A etc .

Don’t think there are too many illegals living in Brentwood .

If you zoom in and look at neighborhoods like Panorama City etc the crime is very high.
Lots of shootings and killings .

Unfortunately the left will lie and lie to push their illegal immigration agenda.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Did you bother to check and see 'what' all those homeless people were arrested for? I didn't think so...

Huge increase in arrests of homeless in L.A. — but mostly for minor offenses

• Times analysis of police data shows. And the most common offense — the one Segovia was arrested for — was failure to appear in court for an unpaid citation.
• A spokesman for the LAPD, whose officers made 90% of the city's homeless arrests in 2016, said that methodology inflated the number because people who simply refused to give officers an address were also labeled as transient.
• Segovia, who sells his artwork on the Venice boardwalk, has received as many as a dozen tickets, his lawyer said — mostly for sleeping, smoking and letting his artwork spill out of his boardwalk vendor space — and has gone to court five times to clear his record. He rolls his eyes at his multiple treks through the legal system.
• The city scaled back some punitive measures. In 2014, City Atty. Mike Feuer asked the LAPD to reduce quality-of-life citations from misdemeanors, which can draw jail time, to infractions. But police continued to hand out misdemeanor tickets to homeless people like Robert L. Smith, who was cited in July 2016 for illegal possession of a Target shopping cart.

From a source referenced in the linked article:
http://milliondollarhoods.org/wp-con...2.0.FINAL_.pdf

So I guess what it comes down to is whether or not you consider failure to appear on a ticket a criminal act, pushing a target shopping cart down the street or smoking on the sidewalk are really criminal acts that should result in people being sent to jail.

So these people run illegal businesses on our streets and don't even bother to appear in court? Doesn't seem like they respect the rule of law at all.

Hmmm. Interesting.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by jm1982

I hear that lie over and over “Sanctuary cities are safer”

It’s because they are including low violent crime areas like Brentwood , West L.A etc .

Don’t think there are too many illegals living in Brentwood .

If you zoom in and look at neighborhoods like Panorama City etc the crime is very high.
Lots of shootings and killings .

Unfortunately the left will lie and lie to push their illegal immigration agenda.

Yes I'm beginning to think Sanctuary Cities are not as safe as Rahm Emanuel has been claiming.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by jm1982

I hear that lie over and over “Sanctuary cities are safer”

It’s because they are including low violent crime areas like Brentwood , West L.A etc .

Don’t think there are too many illegals living in Brentwood .

If you zoom in and look at neighborhoods like Panorama City etc the crime is very high.
Lots of shootings and killings .

Unfortunately the left will lie and lie to push their illegal immigration agenda.

Dang..I thought this thread was about homelessness, but now you're telling me it's really a rant about illegals?

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Dang..I thought this thread was about homelessness, but now you're telling me it's really a rant about illegals?

I was responding to another poster .

We have illegal alien homeless criminals too though .

And it wasn’t a rant, just facts .

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Dang..I thought this thread was about homelessness, but now you're telling me it's really a rant about illegals?

This thread is about crimes committed by undocumented campers.

Furthermore, why are they easier to target? If a LEO sees somebody committing a crime, then why is it easier for a LEO to apprehend an undocumented camper than it is to apprehend anybody else?