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Old 07-23-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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"Nearly half (49 percent) those who once had a permanent residence in the city had maintained it for at least ten years.

And of the minority of homeless who have migrated here from other parts of the state or country (29 percent), a greater percentage of those have done so in search of work (25 percent) than to partake in the so-called liberal social services the City provides (22 percent)."
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...homegrown.html

ASR's homeless Survey says that 29 percent of the homeless admitted to being from outside of San Francisco. Now it's San Francisco, not LA, but 29% is a large percentage of people. Not the majority, but not insignificant either.

And who knows what the real figures were, somehow I'm not sure if people ALWAYS tell the truth during SURVEYS.

But this survey does acknowledge that out of the 29% of those homeless who moved to SF from other places, 22 percent of them admitted to moving for welfare benefits. Not the majority, but this is a STATISTICALLY relevant number.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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Highest homeless population in the United States: New York City...76,501 Los Angeles...55,188 Seattle...11,643 Washington D.C....7,473 San Jose...7,394 San Fransisco...6,858 Philadelphia...5,693 All have Democrat mayors, Democrat city councils, and all voted for Hillary by 80%


https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/st...88850118615042
https://theoutline.com/post/4975/los...=1&zi=ywbt3avt

Unsheltered homeless rate is fifteen times higher in L.A. than New York


Sky-high housing prices in California and New York have made the two states the epicenter of America’s homeless crisis. Combined, they account for 40.46 percent of the nation’s homeless population, according to data from the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness. Yet while only 5 percent of New York City’s homeless population lack access to shelter, in California’s largest city, Los Angeles, an entire 75 percent are left on the streets.

That reflects dramatically different spending priorities, says Margot Kushel, a professor of medicine at University of California San Francisco who has studied homelessness in California. Though Los Angeles has prioritized creating long-term affordable housing as a way to end homelessness, which in itself is not a panacea for people who lack the resources to perform basic tasks like buy groceries, the city has let spending on temporary shelters fall by the wayside. According to Kushel, the city has demonstrated “not a lot of sustained effort on homeless services (aka shelters etc).”

Los Angeles also spends less than other major cities on its homeless population in general. An April 2018 auditor report found that, while New York City allocates roughly $17,000 per homeless resident, Los Angeles budgets only $5,000."

NYC spends a fantastic amount of money on homeless. They actually house homeless in BUDGET hotels for 3,000 a month. NYC has more welfare rental programs than LA.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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Another one of jerry and gavins army
- a vagrant with a criminal history-
murdered an innocent woman who wanted to use public transportation
I wonder if anyone will not vote for gavin after this awful- preventable crime due to jerry and Gavin's early release money grab gambit
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latim..._wT63LzICA_6:0
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:30 PM
 
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"Nearly half (49 percent) those who once had a permanent residence in the city had maintained it for at least ten years.

And of the minority of homeless who have migrated here from other parts of the state or country (29 percent), a greater percentage of those have done so in search of work (25 percent) than to partake in the so-called liberal social services the City provides (22 percent)."
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...homegrown.html

ASR's homeless Survey says that 29 percent of the homeless admitted to being from outside of San Francisco. Now it's San Francisco, not LA, but 29% is a large percentage of people. Not the majority, but not insignificant either.

And who knows what the real figures were, somehow I'm not sure if people ALWAYS tell the truth during SURVEYS.

But this survey does acknowledge that out of the 29% of those homeless who moved to SF from other places, 22 percent of them admitted to moving for welfare benefits. Not the majority, but this is a STATISTICALLY relevant number.
Yes. This is accurate information. Except you have neglected to isolate the number from out of state as opposed to the number from just out of the city. San Franciso’s neighboring counties are one huge metro area. Yes, the homeless move more freely in and out of the City here to / from surrounding cities/counties than often found in other cities.

Now then, back to your research as to how many from out of state? I know the answer. It’s easy to find.

And do some quick numbers:
Even using your above ... 29% of 6600 homeless is: 1900
22% of 1900 is: 420

420 out of 6600 is: 6%

“Statistically relevant”? .... mmmm, yes ... but not by any means a priority function.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:30 PM
 
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Unsupervised housing is not an option anymore
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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Another one of jerry and gavins army
- a vagrant with a criminal history-
murdered an innocent woman who wanted to use public transportation
I wonder if anyone will not vote for gavin after this awful- preventable crime due to jerry and Gavin's early release money grab gambit
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latim..._wT63LzICA_6:0
Oh noes! Want me to list hundreds of homeless killed by non-homeless? I can.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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https://theoutline.com/post/4975/los...=1&zi=ywbt3avt

Unsheltered homeless rate is fifteen times higher in L.A. than New York


Sky-high housing prices in California and New York have made the two states the epicenter of America’s homeless crisis. Combined, they account for 40.46 percent of the nation’s homeless population, according to data from the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness. Yet while only 5 percent of New York City’s homeless population lack access to shelter, in California’s largest city, Los Angeles, an entire 75 percent are left on the streets.

That reflects dramatically different spending priorities, says Margot Kushel, a professor of medicine at University of California San Francisco who has studied homelessness in California. Though Los Angeles has prioritized creating long-term affordable housing as a way to end homelessness, which in itself is not a panacea for people who lack the resources to perform basic tasks like buy groceries, the city has let spending on temporary shelters fall by the wayside. According to Kushel, the city has demonstrated “not a lot of sustained effort on homeless services (aka shelters etc).”

Los Angeles also spends less than other major cities on its homeless population in general. An April 2018 auditor report found that, while New York City allocates roughly $17,000 per homeless resident, Los Angeles budgets only $5,000."

NYC spends a fantastic amount of money on homeless. They actually house homeless in BUDGET hotels for 3,000 a month. NYC has more welfare rental programs than LA.
Yes. This is good, accurate and relevant information. It highlights the critical issue of why SF’s and LA’s homeless are so visible, of course.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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And you'll make it unreadable, self aggrandizing, and boring- as usual
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Looks like federal involvement is gonna happen-no matter what the election outcome thank goodness
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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And you'll make it unreadable, self aggrandizing, and boring- as usual
Sorry you are being forced into reading bubba!
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