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Old 07-16-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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Wherever you find a left wing controlled city- the same left wing destructive metric applies.. Obama ruined a lot of good cities and people. Nobody stood up for the victims and communities till now- so be it- we are doing it now and it will happen.
I hope that mayor gets some new policies going! Strict laws that are enforced are awesome!
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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At least she’s asking them ... unlike Garcetti ...
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“Clean up after yourselves’: San Francisco mayor plans to ask homeless nicely not to poo in streets”

San Francisco's mayor has an idea to stop the homeless pooping in the street: ask them to stop - or to at least clean up. She blames charities for San-Fran’s poo-gate, saying they should teach people to “respect the community”.

https://www.rt.com/usa/433353-san-fr...-poo-homeless/
Yea that'll work... the homeless always listen to authority . Nothing's short of declaring SF a disaster area and having the national guard sweep the bad areas and clear them out will do any good. By the way what have all these "charities". Been telling them up till now? Or have they been pocketing the money and maybe giving them a crappy meal? . Notice the mayor said not one word about cops enforcing the law. She's just another bleeding heart.
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Old 07-16-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Yea that'll work... the homeless always listen to authority . Nothing's short of declaring SF a disaster area and having the national guard sweep the bad areas and clear them out will do any good. By the way what have all these "charities". Been telling them up till now? Or have they been pocketing the money and maybe giving them a crappy meal? . Notice the mayor said not one word about cops enforcing the law. She's just another bleeding heart.
Yeah we will see what she does . Garcetti when he was first elected said he was going to be a “back to basics” type of mayor but he’s proven he’s not interested in making things better and just interested in furthering his political career .

If Mayor Breed does take more aggressive measures and it works there will be more pressure on Garcetti to actually do something .

I’ve said it for a long time before any of these reports came out in the news that the homeless situation would lead to a public safety issue with the spread of disease and now we see these hepatitis outbreaks etc.

Who knows how many other diseases are being spread yet the connection isn’t made.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Where did I say it is a cities responsibility to do anything for the homeless (big hint here: I didn't) But cities have two choices and two choices only. Provide them shelter or get used to them sleeping on the sidewalk.
Nope. Both choices are enabling.

A third choice is cut off ALL aid, unless you are truly mentally ill (and not from drug abuse). ALL. No food. No protection from the elements. No healthcare of any kind. No cigarettes. Nothing.

And that means no sleeping on public property. Move along. No panhandling either. Make is a crime to give money to bums. Or food. Or cigarettes. Or booze.

And no Narcan. You want to do drugs, have at it. But if you OD, then you don't get expensive drugs to bring you out of it. Law-abiding citizens are denied lifesaving drugs because of their expense. But drug addicts get Narcan time after time.

Unless you are truly mentally ill, homelessness is a choice. It's garbage that these folks are on the street because they lost their jobs. Pure garbage. I work to survive, and it's hard. Let them work to do the same. We've made it too easy to sit around doing drugs, living on the street.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Where did I say it is a cities responsibility to do anything for the homeless (big hint here: I didn't) But cities have two choices and two choices only. Provide them shelter or get used to them sleeping on the sidewalk.
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What I have said is that LA can either find the homeless a place to sleep or step over them on their way to work and that it's up to the people of LA to decide what they will ultimately do, not me - wouldn't you agree?
No I don't agree that it's LA's responsibility to find the homeless a place to sleep.

No I don't agree that these are the only 2 options for the city of LA with respect to dealing with the homeless.

If a person can't can't afford to live an a certain area of the US then they need to get up off their butt and move where they can afford to live.

If they are insane they should be placed in a facility where mentally insane people are treated or become a ward of the State.

If they are addicted to drugs they need to get to the point of wanting help and then go and get it...in the meantime they should not be allowed to become a burden on society or expect free rent from the government or have someone find them a place to sleep. They are big enough to do drugs they are big enough to find a place to sleep.

In the meantime they need to abide by the same laws that apply to all of us or face the consequences.
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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No I don't agree that it's LA's responsibility to find the homeless a place to sleep.

No I don't agree that these are the only 2 options for the city of LA with respect to dealing with the homeless.

If a person can't can't afford to live an a certain area of the US then they need to get up off their butt and move where they can afford to live.

If they are insane they should be placed in a facility where mentally insane people are treated or become a ward of the State.

If they are addicted to drugs they need to get to the point of wanting help and then go and get it...in the meantime they should not be allowed to become a burden on society or expect free rent from the government or have someone find them a place to sleep. They are big enough to do drugs they are big enough to find a place to sleep.

In the meantime they need to abide by the same laws that apply to all of us or face the consequences.
Yeah people need to decide to help themselves first . We shouldn’t tolerate homelessness as a lifestyle .
Letting people take over sidewalks and parking run down RVs to live in is tolerating it as a lifestyle . They want the SoCal weather but they don’t want to work to pay for it .

The idea of the Mayor that anyone that wants to live in L.A should be able to live here despite their income is ridiculous .
These homeless housing units cost $400,000 per unit to build ..
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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The very concept of ensuring that all persons are guaranteed housing is something that Democratic Socialists AKA Socialists fully support and many of us fully oppose. It is not something that was guaranteed in the constitution.
Part of the problem is that a lot of Americans do not want housing, they like the homeless lifestyle and you cannot force anybody to get housing even making homelessness illegal does not help, the transients are in and out of jail and back on the streets in no time.
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Nope. Both choices are enabling.

A third choice is cut off ALL aid, unless you are truly mentally ill (and not from drug abuse). ALL. No food. No protection from the elements. No healthcare of any kind. No cigarettes. Nothing.

And that means no sleeping on public property. Move along. No panhandling either. Make is a crime to give money to bums. Or food. Or cigarettes. Or booze.

And no Narcan. You want to do drugs, have at it. But if you OD, then you don't get expensive drugs to bring you out of it. Law-abiding citizens are denied lifesaving drugs because of their expense. But drug addicts get Narcan time after time.

Unless you are truly mentally ill, homelessness is a choice. It's garbage that these folks are on the street because they lost their jobs. Pure garbage. I work to survive, and it's hard. Let them work to do the same. We've made it too easy to sit around doing drugs, living on the street.
Yeah and the charities have made things worse the new mayor in SF is actually admitting this now .

We need a return to personal responsibility. Unemployment is low now . It’s not our fault if someone decided to become a drug addict or criminal etc .

And no we shouldn’t just clear everyone’s criminal records .
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Man, talk about a bunch of people who absolutely have zero grasp of reality... and I’m not talking about the homeless...
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Article from last year but proves the point that many homeless refuse services despite what out of town homeless advocates might say .



“83% of homeless living in the Santa Ana River Trail encampments are refusing offers of assistance, according to the Orange County Sheriff’s Department (OCSD)”

OC Sheriff's Department: 83% of Santa Ana River Homeless Are Refusing Services - Anaheim Blog
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