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Old 05-18-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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we are looking to buy and our agent basically said that if we used him exclusively as a "buyer's agent" his fee would be 3% (and we'd have to pay out the addt'l 1% ourselves if the house was listed as 2% for buyer's agent) but as a broker's agent, he would accept whatever was listed as MLS. What's the difference????????????
As a broker's agent, he is representing the Seller, as a buyer's agent, he is representing YOU. It's a matter of who is his "boss" and whom he owes fiduciary responsibility.
There is a lot more to the work a buyer's agent does and can do vs. what a broker agent does for a buyer. That may be why your agent is looking for more compensation than the "2%".
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:35 PM
 
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As a broker's agent, he is representing the Seller, as a buyer's agent, he is representing YOU. It's a matter of who is his "boss" and whom he owes fiduciary responsibility.
There is a lot more to the work a buyer's agent does and can do vs. what a broker agent does for a buyer. That may be why your agent is looking for more compensation than the "2%".
This is a win-win situation for the REA's I think. The brokers agent will tell the seller that I can do more for you than the buyers agent and ask for more than 2% and the buyers agent will tell the buyer exactly what you said above and charge the buyer more than 2%..... pretty soon we are looking at 6% commission for the sale in total. I think there is more to this though....
When the market was hot, there were more sales numerically and there was more money to be made even with 2% commission..... now since the number of sales have gone down they try to up the % to make more money ? I don't know but in general it was abt 2%-2% split on LI in the past 3-4 yrs atleast.
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is a win-win situation for the REA's I think. I don't know but in general it was abt 2%-2% split on LI in the past 3-4 yrs atleast.
You are assuming it was 2/2 - only the listing broker/agent knows for sure (and the seller, of course)! It could have easily been 3/2.

Still less than elsewhere in the country... But in the end, commissions are negotiable, period, and it's up to the participant to agree or not
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:45 PM
 
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This is a win-win situation for the REA's I think. The brokers agent will tell the seller that I can do more for you than the buyers agent and ask for more than 2%
The broker's agent (as opposed to buyer's agent) doesn't negotiate commission with the seller, the listing agent does.
Unless you use the term interchangeably, which would be incorrect and confusing to everybody.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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The broker's agent (as opposed to buyer's agent) doesn't negotiate commission with the seller, the listing agent does.
Unless you use the term interchangeably, which would be incorrect and confusing to everybody.
I think we are just talking semantics here, but you know what I mean.... for the OP on this thread it seems like it does not matter who does what negotiation.... he needs 3% flat.... and if the seller will not give it, then so be it.... the buyer would have to shell it out ! Am I saying this right ?
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:14 PM
 
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I think we are just talking semantics here, but you know what I mean.... for the OP on this thread it seems like it does not matter who does what negotiation.... he needs 3% flat.... and if the seller will not give it, then so be it.... the buyer would have to shell it out ! Am I saying this right ?
Actually, I'm not sure I know what you mean
"he needs 3% flat" - who is "he" and what is "flat"?

But whatever the outcome, in the end, the BUYER pays - the buyer's the one with the "pot of money", agreed?
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:41 PM
 
Location: East Northport
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It's up to each client to negotiate the commission with their agent. Personally, I think that a buyer broker pushing for 3% when the seller is willing to pay him 2% is overdoing it. But, if the buyer thinks that it is worth it to pay the extra 1% then so be it.

It can work the other way around, too. I sometimes work as a buyer broker for a 1% fee. If the seller pays me 2%, I refund the difference to my buyer client.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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we are looking to buy and our agent basically said that if we used him exclusively as a "buyer's agent" his fee would be 3% (and we'd have to pay out the addt'l 1% ourselves if the house was listed as 2% for buyer's agent) but as a broker's agent, he would accept whatever was listed as MLS. What's the difference????????????
Sorry, this was the post I was referring to.... the 3% flat.... I hope its clear who is "he" and what is "flat".


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Actually, I'm not sure I know what you mean
"he needs 3% flat" - who is "he" and what is "flat"?
But whatever the outcome, in the end, the BUYER pays - the buyer's the one with the "pot of money", agreed?
Totally agreed on this one.... the buyer who can spend time and money to search for a house by themselves are at a disadvantage here as they have to pay out of their pocket anyway with or without seeking help from a REA.... they don't have a choice.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:00 AM
 
Location: NY
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You're absolutely right, attorneys are the exception , but the OP didn't mention he/she is an attorney - was only referring to the question coming from his attorney...
Oh duh... my bad. I misinterpreted this:

" And my atty, Ron Goldstein in Huntington, said to ask how much do I get if I bring in a buyer? "

to mean that his attorney asked him how much he (the attorney) would get if he (the attorney) happened to introduce the OP to someone who ends up buying the OP's house.

Duh and double duh!

SBT
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Oh duh... my bad. I misinterpreted this:

" And my atty, Ron Goldstein in Huntington, said to ask how much do I get if I bring in a buyer? "

to mean that his attorney asked him how much he (the attorney) would get if he (the attorney) happened to introduce the OP to someone who ends up buying the OP's house.

Duh and double duh!

SBT

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