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Old 06-25-2023, 07:19 PM
 
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I heard about the new system but it costs as much as $30k, but there is $10k incentive from town I believe, still even with that, running power etc seems very complicated. I think it makes sense for areas where sewage might leach to water supply.

Thanks for all the suggestions, I called for 2nd opinion and this guy (another cesspool company but they are not pumping they are the cesspool install guy came with a van) he was able to snake through the place where the 1st cesspool company said he can't clear the obstruction and insisted no need to pay for camera inspection. Thank god for this guy at least now we can use the bathrooms. He said if it gets stuck again call him and he'll come back for free one more time. We were able to see the water come through the cesspool inlet where it was trickling before.

However, he also recommend we change the system soon since it's old, he said we can change the pipes for few thousands (plus the hedges that might be damaged) and see if it helps but eventually we have to change the cesspool. 2 rings in the backyard.
He also somehow said we can do it under the driveway, they are very strong etc but I am not so sure.

About pipes being clay, he used the term paper-like actually, so they degrade a lot, might be a little cave down there that's still keeping the water flowing but pipes he said might have been damaged due to time.
Orangeburg pipe..... previous owners had that and it collapsed and had to be replaced
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Old 06-25-2023, 07:20 PM
 
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$1000 /yr is a small price to pay not have to deal with backed up human excrement again. We had a cesspool in our house in the mid 60s in Nassau and I will never get that disgusting smell of sh$t out of my head from when my father had to snake the front of the house every once in a while. My mother in law just had her cesspool back up a few months ago and it was all in her basement. Totally disgusting and downright dangerous.

I lived in an apartment in Commack and the first thing the landlord told me was to make sure that women don’t flush their tampons down the toilet because it will clog their cesspool. Jeez. I work in Suffolk and always hear my coworkers complaining about having to get their cesspool emptied or they smell crap. People are crying over a measly $1000/yr ($120/mo) for such a huge convenience? Yet they have no problem paying $200 for their cell phone bill or drink Starbucks every day. Then I guess they shouldn’t complain.

My understanding is that sewers are not even available if you wanted them. I lived in Holtsville and I could not have one. Moved straight back to Nassau and never have to worry about it again.
I grew up in Brooklyn with sewers.... having a sewer is no guarantee not to have a backup.
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Old 06-25-2023, 08:01 PM
 
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Orangeburg pipe..... previous owners had that and it collapsed and had to be replaced
Wood pulp, coal tar pitch with a bit of asbestos made in beautiful Orangeburg, New York.

PVC and ABS totally killed off market for Orangeburg pipe so that was that far as new was concerned. There are still miles of the stuff however underground all over USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangeburg_pipe

https://www.expresssewer.com/blog/ex...u-need-to-know

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Old 06-26-2023, 06:48 PM
 
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I grew up in Brooklyn with sewers.... having a sewer is no guarantee not to have a backup.
same experience in eastern Queens with sewer. I have memories of a dead giant rat back up
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Old 06-27-2023, 04:06 PM
 
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This is why I would never consider living in Suffolk County. Why and How in 2023 are people still living on top of their own waste? This is one step away of using outhouses. Just get sewers. I have been to tiny towns in Delaware and other states and all had sewers that nicely transport your disgusting human waste away to a waste site. Suffolk is still living in the early 1900s. Why dont residents demand sewers already they can’t all be thrilled with having their yard or basements fill up with feces and have to have them emptied. Please enlighten me.
Sewers can back up into someone's home. You could wind up with an indoor poopoo pool of your very own!
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:52 PM
 
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same experience in eastern Queens with sewer. I have memories of a dead giant rat back up
Same growing up on SI, sewer back up ruined our finished basement at least once, no rats though, giant or otherwise. Old man was not happy and let any and everyone in city government know about it.

City just finally completed installing last part of sewers on South Shore bringing balance of properties out there finally onto sewer system.

Staten Island, Long Island, Queens, etc... many areas saw post war building boom that far outstripped local government's ability (or desire) to install sewer systems. So properties got cesspools or septic.

Septic systems aren't that bad per se, especially in low housing density areas where there is a good amount of property for leech fields and so on. But when you start crowding housing onto comparatively small lots....



https://www.city-data.com/forum/long...king-yard.html

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Old 06-27-2023, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Suffolk County
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I lived in Queens and because of the pitch issues, and possibly narrowing of the lines, we constantly have issues with our sewer backing up into our driveway, that's accelerated whenever we have a heavy downpour and in some cases the city sewer can't even handle such amount of water, it actually starts backing up from our basements, remember the recent heavy rain/flood that killed bunch of people in Queens area? Nothing ever happened with City, nobody ever investigated why city couldn't handle the water and did not have back up prevention devices that actually poured every sewer system back into people's houses, streets, and killed many people including little kid.

I always thoughts cesspools/septic systems were nightmare, but I rather not deal with someone else's sewage, or hope that they installed adequate lines that won't back up into my house in case of heavy downpour. I assume any new development would have enough back-up prevention in place, but honestly you never know. I am not referring to your upstairs bathroom backing up into your basement shower..
I am talking about actually municipal wastewater coming back out of your drains and your sink or shower.
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