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It’s retarded. In theory, if the entire world doesn’t get on board then what the hell difference will it make in the big picture for the US? Exactly. None.
That's a pretty foolish take. You can wet the bed a little and that's not great, but it doesn't make sense to say just because you wet the bed a little, it's time to go take a **** on the stove since it's already dirty anyways. Leave less of a mess, and there's less to clean up. Also, it's going to be hard to convince others to clean up their act if you yourself aren't willing to do so.
Ultimately though, most people aren't going to put their money where their mouth is for these sort of do-gooder things. It's mostly going to be economics that will be the driver and the fact that electricity can be generated in an economically efficient fashion from a wide variety of sources including ones in and close to Long Island is probably going to be the largest driver for change rather than any kind of feel-good kumbaya-ing or angry old crank caricature.
I respectfully disagree: I see it as being ridiculous that the West is pursing clean technologies, while the rest of the world is severely lagging.
If we weren't interconnected, it wouldn't matter as much, but since most of what Americans consume comes from other countries, it's ridiculous that they're not abiding by the same labor and environmental standards.
That's a pretty foolish take. You can wet the bed a little and that's not great, but it doesn't make sense to say just because you wet the bed a little, it's time to go take a **** on the stove since it's already dirty anyways. Leave less of a mess, and there's less to clean up. Also, it's going to be hard to convince others to clean up their act if you yourself aren't willing to do so.
Ultimately though, most people aren't going to put their money where their mouth is for these sort of do-gooder things. It's mostly going to be economics that will be the driver and the fact that electricity can be generated in an economically efficient fashion from a wide variety of sources including ones in and close to Long Island is probably going to be the largest driver for change rather than any kind of feel-good kumbaya-ing or angry old crank caricature.
No, it's foolish to force people to pay a lot of money to replace systems that are already more efficient than what most of the world uses with newer more efficient ones that need to be powered by some mythical sources like the ones I bolded above that don't exist. When I hear the leftist idealogues who are driving this discourse admit that nuclear power is the only answer to what they want, then we can talk about economics.
As it stands, the entire movement is an ideological, one with its basis in Anti-west, anti American and in some ways fundamentally anti-human ideology. It's also quasi religious with Greta the great as the patron saint of climate anxiety. I get dumb college kids buying into this stuff, but adults? Where is all of this extra power to heat millions of homes in the northeast and midwest going to come from and where are the transmission lines gonig? In your backyard?
With no chargers in apartment houses for the most part , electric cars are few and far between here in queens for those in apartment houses .
I can only imagine long islanders trying to evacuate areas of Long Island in a hurricane in long lines of traffic with the electricity down or off and no where to charge
Now Feds are looking to ban gas stoves. Agency led by Richard Trumpka Jr. (Son of Richard Trumpka long time union rep and big donor to Dems. I guess pay to play is alive and well) despite the fact that any form of cooking creates indoor pollutants.
Now Feds are looking to ban gas stoves. Agency led by Richard Trumpka Jr. (Son of Richard Trumpka long time union rep and big donor to Dems. I guess pay to play is alive and well) despite the fact that any form of cooking creates indoor pollutants.
No, it's foolish to force people to pay a lot of money to replace systems that are already more efficient than what most of the world uses with newer more efficient ones that need to be powered by some mythical sources like the ones I bolded above that don't exist. When I hear the leftist idealogues who are driving this discourse admit that nuclear power is the only answer to what they want, then we can talk about economics.
As it stands, the entire movement is an ideological, one with its basis in Anti-west, anti American and in some ways fundamentally anti-human ideology. It's also quasi religious with Greta the great as the patron saint of climate anxiety. I get dumb college kids buying into this stuff, but adults? Where is all of this extra power to heat millions of homes in the northeast and midwest going to come from and where are the transmission lines gonig? In your backyard?
It has literally become a religion to some. It’s crazy. As for electric ovens for many many people it would require major electrical work and even panel/service upgrades for some (especially in older homes) we are talking thousands of dollars. It’s not just simply swapping an appliance and plugging it in. Who’s going to pay for all of that?
It’s funny how natty gas was being pimped and promoted as the best thing since the invention of fire, and now it’s just another evil toxic polluting dino fuel.
It’s funny how natty gas was being pimped and promoted as the best thing since the invention of fire, and now it’s just another evil toxic polluting dino fuel.
Yep first coal was the devil now they moved on to natural gas all of a sudden.
It’s retarded. In theory, if the entire world doesn’t get on board then what the hell difference will it make in the big picture for the US? Exactly. None.
The US is the biggest market in the world.
What the US decides to do will affect prices for both electric products and gas products worldwide, making it more expensive to buy gas products than electric ones.
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